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During briefing, a supervisor (Sergeant) addressed the night shift and after reading all the BOL stuff, he made a profound statement, which is absolutely true. Basically he said if two cops that are best friends are under investigation he would segregate both. He said he would tell the first cop, “you can save your job if you roll on cop #2. Immediately afterward the Sgt would exit the room. He said he would then tell cop #2 the same thing before exiting that room. Within a flash of an eye, both cops would meet him in the hallway and point at each other, saying “he did it.” The Sgt said, maybe neither were guilty, but they would do anything to save their job. True story and great Supervisor. That sir is camaraderie! Cops have families, homes and kids. I don’t expect anyone not a cop to understand. Your definition of camaraderie and mine are different!
As for the rant. Read between the lines. I may have provided some valuable information to individuals that have been issued a speeding ticket from the CHP, been arrested as a result of a speed stop, or had their vehicle impounded after being stopped for speed. Other than the personal attacks between me and Highway, read my last exchange with him carefully and ask yourself the reason he did not answer the questions about certifications. Then read this; https://steeringlaw.com/police-misconduct-articles/brady-list-and-pitchess-motions/

Basically if a cop is caught in a lie ANYWHERE, their career is toast. The cop’s credibility in court will always be called into question. A person just needs to know how to impeach a cop’s testimony and where to find evidence if the cop is not truthful.

As I wrote earlier, if two cops are asked the same question separately and told only one will keep their job if the question is answered truthfully, both will likely tell the truth. LE agencies have different policy and documentation requirements. Documentation and the Brady Rule is the CHP’s Achilles’ heel.

Now apply the following hypothetical scenario; If a doctor is required to obtain an annual certification to perform some type of surgery and after a patient died on the table, it was discovered that the doctor falsified the last certification, what will be the result? Because I still have many friends with the CHP, I will not provide further information. Having said that, I strongly suspect falsification within law-enforcement is a nationwide problem.
So per that first story both cops potentially lied to save their asses at the expense of their partner and were fired right? But yet thats also camaraderie at the same time?
 
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So per that first story both cops potentially lied to save their asses at the expense of their partner and were fired right? But yet thats also camaraderie at the same time?
That is not what is written. It was basically a lesson from a supervisor that he could flip cops with the threat of a job loss. Have I seen it, absolutely! However the story articulated is what was said during a briefing. I guess camaraderie means different things to different people and in MHO, camaraderie in law-enforcement, is only inches deep.
 

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That is not what is written. It was basically a lesson from a supervisor that he could flip cops with the threat of a job loss. Have I seen it, absolutely! However the story articulated is what was said during a briefing. I guess camaraderie means different things to different people and in MHO, camaraderie in law-enforcement, is only inches deep.
My point is at least one or both lied to the supervisor to save their job per what was written, which means their career(s) are gone, so what happened?
 

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My point is at least one or both lied to the supervisor to save their job per what was written, which means their career(s) are gone, so what happened?
Like John Gotti said- being a liar is like being a cøcksucker. Once a cøcksucker, always a cøcksucker.
 
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My point is at least one or both lied to the supervisor to save their job per what was written, which means their career(s) are gone, so what happened?
Here is an example: Two officers are accused of something. Neither officer knows if evidence exists of the wrongdoing. If it is a serious violation and management has evidence, both officers will probably hang. Regardless of the amount of evidence, they are always interrogated. Prior to interrogation they are separated. If an offer to save their job is put on the table and the violation is significant, the first one to rat out the other will probably save their job. Up until the interrogation, typically neither officer has made a statement. If one, or both lie, no matter how minor, because of the Brady Rule, the liar will be fired. The same thing happens everyday in criminal court. If there are two defendants, one or both may be offered a reduced sentence to rat out their partner. The only difference is, Miranda does not apply to administrative interrogations. Too many malcontents on this forum, I will not comment further.
 
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