Ford SVT Official Response to Frame-a-Geddon

[MagicMtnDan]

BlueSVT didn't get it fixed in time so they have canceled his warranty...bwahahahahhaa!!! I love it!!ewpew:

 

[MagicMtnDan]

Douchenozzle's public whining and attacks on Ford (and support from the other site's owner) has gotten him a lot of publicity that has been very negative for Ford and the Raptor.

Don't underestimate the impact of his "work" - the damage is there and can be seen by many. I'd like to see him be ostracized by the Raptor community :thumbsup:



Some examples:

Ford Raptor Suffers Frame Bending Issues - Ford of Winnipeg - Ford of Winnipeg


Ford Raptor Suffers Frame Bending Issues Ford Raptor Suffers Frame Bending Issues | AutoGuide.com News


Some of the text from the above article:

Ford could do right and accept these problems as a limitation of their engineering, thankful that these consumers have essentially done the research on the Raptor’s faults, integrate them into the next model, and fix the handful of Raptors that have become unhinged.

But of course, any semblance of abuse on a high-performance vehicle is tantamount to warranty revoking—no matter how much the company brags about its capabilities. And Ford did brag, with the following quote coming directly from a company press release: “Even if the typical Ford customer will not be putting their truck through the punishing paces of the Baja 1000, the point is, they could.”


Lots more here:
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&sugexp...=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=4b0b76f839a314b5

 

[MagicMtnDan]

Maybe some of this and these posters will end up on the "other forum" :mrgreen:

(Not for long - it's a sure way to be banned)

 

[bstoner59]

Maybe some of this and these posters will end up on the "other forum" :mrgreen:

(Not for long - it's a sure way to be banned)

I have been put on that "server is too busy" crap list over there again...I guess having a different point of view than BlueSVT and the other DN mods aren't tolerated...I'm just stoked he's getting the shaft from Ford! I think Ford and the SVT team have handled this very well. Kudos to them!

 

[Highroller]

Man buys gun
Man buys bullets for gun
Man shoots self in foot-DAMN
Man told, be careful!
Man shoots self in foot again –DAMN
Man warned about stupid posts on internet
Man shoots self in other foot-DAMN
Man warned again!
Man posts stupid truck tricks video
Man shoots self in Head-Damn
No more man, just BlueSVT-DAMN

 

[trailboss]

Everyone here is right, BlueSVT with support from fellow friends/moderators at the "Z" site have created a great deal of grief for all Raptor owners (potential reduced resale value) as well as tarnishing Fords reputation. If this idiot does not stop acting like a spoiled child and stop this unwarranted attack on Ford, I would not be surprised to see Ford sue him and the "Z" site for facilitating his personal vendetta. If the "Z" has a legal team they should read ALL of BlueSVT's posts and decide if they might have a little exposure...Also where does this guy find the time (lots of posts during working hours) for all these posts? Must have a union/public service job, anyone in the private sector would fire his ass. I have driven (had an early 5.4 and now have an 11' 6.2) over 54,000 miles and the Raptor is by far the best factory-built truck I have ever driven. I have driven and broken many vehicles while offroading over the years and when I did I accepted the fact that I ****ed it up, either paid to fix it, upgrade it or got something else. Wish Ford had made the Raptor years ago!

 

[Highroller]

Everyone here is right, BlueSVT with support from fellow friends/moderators at the "Z" site have created a great deal of grief for all Raptor owners (potential reduced resale value) as well as tarnishing Fords reputation. If this idiot does not stop acting like a spoiled child and stop this unwarranted attack on Ford, I would not be surprised to see Ford sue him and the "Z" site for facilitating his personal vendetta. If the "Z" has a legal team they should read ALL of BlueSVT's posts and decide if they might have a little exposure...Also where does this guy find the time (lots of posts during working hours) for all these posts? Must have a union/public service job, anyone in the private sector would fire his ass. I have driven (had an early 5.4 and now have an 11' 6.2) over 54,000 miles and the Raptor is by far the best factory-built truck I have ever driven. I have driven and broken many vehicles while offroading over the years and when I did I accepted the fact that I ****ed it up, either paid to fix it, upgrade it or got something else. Wish Ford had made the Raptor years ago!

I have already mentioned this to the owner of the "Z" only to be chastized and my posts delete. They are on a power trip overthere, simular to the ****'s in WWII. They feed off the power of control and have a mindset of thier right no matter what! They just don't have the common sense it takes to reaslize they might be wrong!

 

[Highroller]

Good unbiased article on the frame issue

Bang Shift : : Who Gets the Blame? Are Ford Raptor Frames Faulty or Are Owners Expecting Too Much?

 

[MarkT]

Jamal is 100% on target and his response contains zero BS or "CYA" in my opinion.

I never even thought about the "control" issue! Very good point and one I can attest to personally from an experience I had in a race a few years ago... having the rear kick up and flipping end over end is not a good thing!

 

[MagicMtnDan]

Bang Shift : : Who Gets the Blame? Are Ford Raptor Frames Faulty or Are Owners Expecting Too Much?

Good article and the comments are very worth reading (none of them are mine so any criticism of that ************ BlueSVT are from others). Here's their take on it:

So who is right and who is wrong?

Our take, and it is a basic one, is that we saw these trucks make pretty gnarly jumps at the 2010 SEMA Show literally hundreds of times with no ill-effect. Ford was running a deal where people could ride around a course with a professional driver that showed the capabilites of these trucks. There were three of them on a constant loop and we'd be shocked to find out any one of those trucks made less than 100 jumps.

As you'll see in the video (at about 2:00!) the spot where these trucks got jacked up was very violent. So violent that we honestly think that any other half ton truck would have probably lost one of both axles when hitting it at the speeds you will see. Hell, a desert race truck would grunt a little hitting this deal.

And here are the comments (again, none of these are mine):

uperman
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Reply #25 on : Mon July 25, 2011, 13:53:30​

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Yeah BlueSVT's or BlueSTI or what ever he is going by, yes CC he is the biggest Cry Baby DWEEB!

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mike
Posts: 24

Raptor frame

Reply #24 on : Mon July 25, 2011, 13:36:35​

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By the way I have logged over 54,000 miles on Raptors (an early 5.4 and now my 11'6.2) both on and off road and these are without a doubt the most capable factory-built truck ever produced. However Ford cannot warranty the cause of BlueSVT's frame damage: STUPIDITY
And whats up with RaptorForumZ for allowing BlueSVT to remain a moderator on the Z site, using it as his personal media to cry, whine and discredit Ford? His own video shot by the guy riding with him, shows him doing 85+ with no apparent regard for whats up ahead and limited visibility due to the dust clouds...Blue-pay up and shut up.

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C.C.
Posts: 24

Raptor

Reply #23 on : Mon July 25, 2011, 09:56:10​

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Although most of the guys with frame issues have sucked it upand are fixing it, there is one thats the cause of alot of the negative press. BlueSVT over at the "Z" forums thinks that no matter what Ford is responsible for the damage. He is on a twisted mission to try and force the issue and in the mean time is causing other owners a great deal of grief. He reminds me of a spoiled little rich boy I once knew, no matter what it was always someone elses fault and would direct all his effords tryin g to prove it or damage thier respectability by charactor assasination. BlueSVT is a sniveling little dreeb!

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mike
Posts: 24

Raptor frame

Reply #22 on : Mon July 25, 2011, 09:54:04​

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The guy crying the most and loudest (BlueSVT), is using RaptorForumZ to promote his agenda (he and some of his buddies are Z forum moderators) and just refuses to accept the fact they are responsible for the damage. You can bet this is nothing new for him, check his past blogs on other sites and you will probably find much of the same type of whining...There is a price to pay for playing, man up and accept the fact you screwed up.

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Anonymous
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Reply #21 on : Fri July 22, 2011, 19:38:11​

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Ok, LOL, first off, let me say I have seen all the hype and advetisements and read all the articles on the Ford Craptor and after watching this video I still believe they are very capable trucks. That being said, I own a 94 Chevy with long travel suspension with over a foot of suspension travel and it comes down to driver capability. Especially if you havent prerun a course and know how bad a bump can be, the obvious choice is to be a little conservative with your driving. Yes the Raptor ran the Baja, did the driver have the pedal to the metal? No. I say Ford is right, these idiots drove a capable truck beyond its capabilities

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bbfoxbody
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Reply #20 on : Thu July 21, 2011, 14:38:14​

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Bob B. must have watched a different video from the one I did. I saw the owners nose dive this thing into the ground like they were on an episode of the dukes of hazard. I think I'm gonnna go buy one of these and try to run it through the wall of my garage and see if warranty will cover it. Same difference.

It has more than just a clause in the manual about it. Since they were racing the truck it is not covered even though it is supposesd to be able to take the abuse. What it can't take is people that have no idea what they are doing beating the living dog sh*t out of a vehicle and destroying it. There is a difference.

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Doc612
Posts: 24

Look at the pictures too

Reply #19 on : Thu July 21, 2011, 10:06:54​

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I was on the fence on this one. Ford blasted this new truck everywhere as a purpose built off road machine, and said that all they did to the stock truck to run Baja was put saftey items in it. After looking at the pictures on page 3&4 in the link at the bottom of the article i am very skeptical that thier advertising was honest.

I think theres an obvious design problem with the frames of these trucks, which really suprises me because ive watched the ford videos where they say the F-150 is the only pickup in its class to have a 100% boxed frame. So one would assume the frame is going to be strong.

The problem is the GIANT hole directly abopve the bumpstop! Thats the point of the frame that will be stressed the most and to have a obvious weak point right there is a blunder on Fords part.

I agree that the owners were being hard on the trucks, but thats why they bought them. This goes back to people being denied claims on Lightning pickup trucks because ford said there was evedence of abuse or that they had been to the drag strip. People buy these SVT vehicles to go fast. Its not thier fault that ford cheaped out and put weak rods in them

On the other side of the personal responsibility argument you could say, what about a company that has an obvious design flaw manning up and fixing thier mistake.

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Doc
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Reply #18 on : Thu July 21, 2011, 09:18:13​

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Well that sure looked like a fun ride!
On one side Ford advertised the trucks as being able to run the Baja so it should be able to take some desert run BUT when you do stuff like that you have to be aware that you can and will break stuff.
The guy should pay to have the truck repaired and Ford should recall the trucks and fix that frame weak point.

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Douglas
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Reply #17 on : Thu July 21, 2011, 08:50:31​

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Turbo regal and captain obvious have it correct,
You bend it you pay!

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Turbo Regal
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Reply #16 on : Thu July 21, 2011, 04:38:25​

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Whatever happened to personal responsibility?
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