Eibach vs. Geiser

[deucedevil]

I know there has been significant discussion around the topics of springs and these two brands but I want to start a thread specific to what I'm looking to flush out and gain some perspective/opinions on.

I tow an off road trailer on 50% of my off road usage (MDC XT16). The trailer weighs 5500# loaded and the tongue weight comes in about 600-ish plus another 200-300 lbs in gear in the bed depending on trip. I was eyes wide open that there would be squat and to put it simply, this is the last season with the trailer before we go a different route as a family so looking to provide some interim options until we sell it in the fall.

I plan to put in aftermarket springs in the rear only. Don't love this idea with the unweighted rake but taking it on temporarily.

My question to the forum is, Geiser or Eibach? Both are 1.5" lift. Geiser states 1" sag with 700# in bed and Eibach has no mention. I might put the fronts on in the future or I might just go back to stock but looking for what is believe to be the best product for my summer usage where I will likely be towing in the range of 2500-3500 miles over 2-3 months. Yes, it will be predominately off road for truck and trailer. Appreciate any input or insight.

 

[Nick@Apollo-Optics]

Given your use case, I would recommend Geiser as they add both height and additional load capacity, whereas Eibach is predominantly height.

We carry both so I'm not biased towards one or the other, but for you, I'd recommend Geiser.

The Geisers are due in stock next month, but if you'd like to get a set on order, let me know and we'd be happy to help.

Geiser Springs for Gen 3 Ford Raptor

Buy Geiser Offroad VAR-GEISER-GEN3 at Apollo Optics: Geiser Offroad These custom progressive rate springs are designed for the Ford Raptor F150 GEN3 (2021-2022) We will be selling them as individual sets or as a full 4 spring set. This set of FRONT progressive springs will give you about +2.5"...

apollo-optics.com

 

[deucedevil]

Given your use case, I would recommend Geiser as they add both height and additional load capacity, whereas Eibach is predominantly height.

We carry both so I'm not biased towards one or the other, but for you, I'd recommend Geiser.

The Geisers are due in stock next month, but if you'd like to get a set on order, let me know and we'd be happy to help.

Geiser Springs for Gen 3 Ford Raptor

Buy Geiser Offroad VAR-GEISER-GEN3 at Apollo Optics: Geiser Offroad These custom progressive rate springs are designed for the Ford Raptor F150 GEN3 (2021-2022) We will be selling them as individual sets or as a full 4 spring set. This set of FRONT progressive springs will give you about +2.5"...

apollo-optics.com

Nick, thank you for the info. What would be steps to get on order for that wave of supply. Need to receive no later than Week leading in to Memorial Day if possible.

 

[Nick@Apollo-Optics]

Nick, thank you for the info. What would be steps to get on order for that wave of supply. Need to receive no later than Week leading in to Memorial Day if possible.

Working on an ETA. But we're hearing late May at this point.

Here's the link to order if you're interested: https://apollo-optics.com/geiser-springs-for-gen-3-ford-raptor-var-geiser-gen3/

 

[bostonhoff]

Since these springs provide lift, do they require shock extensions for the added travel?

 

[BoostCreep]

Since these springs provide lift, do they require shock extensions for the added travel?

The springs don’t add travel, they only increase the ride height. No extensions.

 

[Nick@Apollo-Optics]

Since these springs provide lift, do they require shock extensions for the added travel?

What @BoostCreep said is correct. Zero issues with the factory shocks.

 

[datazianguy]

Given your use case, I would recommend Geiser as they add both height and additional load capacity, whereas Eibach is predominantly height.

We carry both so I'm not biased towards one or the other, but for you, I'd recommend Geiser.

The Geisers are due in stock next month, but if you'd like to get a set on order, let me know and we'd be happy to help.

Geiser Springs for Gen 3 Ford Raptor

Buy Geiser Offroad VAR-GEISER-GEN3 at Apollo Optics: Geiser Offroad These custom progressive rate springs are designed for the Ford Raptor F150 GEN3 (2021-2022) We will be selling them as individual sets or as a full 4 spring set. This set of FRONT progressive springs will give you about +2.5"...

apollo-optics.com

Question about the HD springs that Eibach has for gen 3 that supposedly have a rear lift of 2.3"-0.6" with weight between 0-500lbs. how do they perform compared to the non-HD version with rear lift of 1.5"

I carry roughly around 6-700lbs of gear and didn't want 2.3" of lift when unloaded but also was wondering is 1.5" will be enough of lift to compensate for the squat.

Thank you

 

[Nick@Apollo-Optics]

Question about the HD springs that Eibach has for gen 3 that supposedly have a rear lift of 2.3"-0.6" with weight between 0-500lbs. how do they perform compared to the non-HD version with rear lift of 1.5"

I carry roughly around 6-700lbs of gear and didn't want 2.3" of lift when unloaded but also was wondering is 1.5" will be enough of lift to compensate for the squat.

Thank you

The standard Eibach springs will be only slightly firmer than the factory springs. 600-700lb is getting close to the OEM maximum payload. How is the truck reacting to that added weight on the stock suspension?

 

[datazianguy]

The standard Eibach springs will be only slightly firmer than the factory springs. 600-700lb is getting close to the OEM maximum payload. How is the truck reacting to that added weight on the stock suspension?

It squats pretty bad, also driving at night is a constant reminder that i am blinding everyone. I am currently using the Airlift 1000 bag with OEM but it really limits the capability of this truck with set of airbags when i am out offroading. looking to upgrade to a new set of spring so that i can still, to some extent, have the capability of this truck with increased load. Just been on the fence between the standard and HD version of Eibach for a bit now.