Drove a Gen 2 for the first time - Pros and Cons

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FordTechOne

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Also, have you heard the horror stories of getting Tesla's repaired.
Manufacturing something and then servicing the product after are two different things.
Exactly. Tesla is one of the worst companies for serviceability, especially out of warranty. They’re essentially disposable cars.
 

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"So they can get impregnated by Muskrat, berated, embarrassed, and then laid off for no reason with no notice, then have their severance pay suspended?"

Smart employers Never hire female engineers.
 

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Smart employers Never hire female engineers.

Technically false but directionally true. Just like Trump. I like it. :) Out of probably 50 such, I knew one that was good and a couple that were OK. Same company, same timeframe, out of 50 men, there would be one that was great, 30 that were good, and 10 that were OK. Probably because there are more men on the spectrum and a touch of that makes you better at engineering. But we continue to ignore talent and spend enormous effort pounding square pegs into round holes. I'm still waiting for the NBA to hire their quota of short fat old white women with no coordination.
 

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Look at GM's Mary Barra. They chose to make a female engineer the BOSS, because of the optics. She championed their plan to build only EV's in the future, because of politics. They now loose billions on their EV's.

Look at USSS ex-director Kimberly Cheadle; same reason for promotion, same failure while acting as the boss. Very nearly presided over an assassination.

The DNC's latest puppet is another example.

It's like gravity. you can fight it if you want, but eventually it will hurt you.
 
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Look at Ford's Mary Barra. They chose to make a female engineer the BOSS, because of the optics. She championed their plan to build only EV's in the future, because of politics. They now lose around $40K on every F150 lighting they sell.
I guess it's good new then that they can't sell them? Except that the fewer they sell, the more they lose on each. What an epic failure. At least they can raise the price of the F-150 to recoup. :(
 
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Happy to report that I now have a 2022 Lariat with the 3.5 Ecoboost in my driveway. Not a Raptor but should do the job for me. I'll still hang around here as I won't exclude that I get a Raptor at a later point in time. Thanks to everybody for their 2 cents - great community here!:)
 
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I had a similar experience when I first drove the Gen 2 Raptor. I was blown away by the power and how smooth it handles off-road—seriously a game-changer compared to other trucks. But yeah, I agree, there are definitely some trade-offs. The weight and size can make it feel a bit bulky on tight trails, and I did notice the steering wasn't as sharp as I'd like. Still, the suspension and overall ride comfort more than make up for it, especially when you take it off the beaten path. It's all about what you prioritize!
 

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Drove a 2024 Sport with the coyote engine in Fla as a rental for a week. It had around 2000 miles on it.

I thought the ride/suspension was utter trash compared to my Gen 1 Raptor with 62000 miles on the stock parts.

Power was good with the V8 though, and it sounded great too.
 
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