CVF Titan Intercooler: Installation and Review

[19RaptorPB]

I've seen that. He posted that stock intercooler did 111°F to 151°F at WOT and CVF did 122°F to 127°F at WOT. Yes CVF did raise 5°F vs 40°F on stock but it was still overall not 40°F difference since CVF ran hotter at the beginning (thats what the other user posted also that it does run hotter in regular driving). If CVF would start out at lets say 106 and ended at 111 then I can agree it was real 40°F difference between both

It was also hotter the day he logged the CVF as opposed to the stock FMIC, which is why it’s almost impossible to compare apples to apples with intercoolers. You’ll never have the same exact conditions to base it off of. Just because it ran hotter under normal driving conditions one day, doesn’t mean it the normal driving temps are always elevated. The only number to pay attention to is how much the temp rises from the start of a pull to the end of a pull. What the real advantage of any aftermarket intercooler has over stock is the fact that you can tune without worry of the intercooler being the weak link in power loss. The stock intercooler does just fine with the stock tune but fails miserably when running a performance tune.


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[Wojciech Gierczynski]

It was also hotter the day he logged the CVF as opposed to the stock FMIC, which is why it’s almost impossible to compare apples to apples with intercoolers. You’ll never have the same exact conditions to base it off of. Just because it ran hotter under normal driving conditions one day, doesn’t mean it the normal driving temps are always elevated. The only number to pay attention to is how much the temp rises from the start of a pull to the end of a pull. What the real advantage of any aftermarket intercooler has over stock is the fact that you can tune without worry of the intercooler being the weak link in power loss. The stock intercooler does just fine with the stock tune but fails miserably when running a performance tune.


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I know that about stock intercooler ... all I am saying that 40°F drop in CVF intercooler is little bit over the top per what they saying and overall real driving conditions testing per people that ran it on the raptor.

 

[19RaptorPB]

I know that about stock intercooler ... all I am saying that 40°F drop in CVF intercooler is little bit over the top per what they saying and overall real driving conditions testing per people that ran it on the raptor.

I’m not saying I disagree with that but it doesn’t mean those numbers weren’t and can’t be achieved from the CVF intercooler. Once I get off my ass and install mine I’ll post my numbers and we’ll see what happens. It gets pretty hot and humid here on the coast.


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[Wojciech Gierczynski]

I’m not saying I disagree with that but it doesn’t mean those numbers weren’t and can’t be achieved from the CVF intercooler. Once I get off my ass and install mine I’ll post my numbers and we’ll see what happens. It gets pretty hot and humid here on the coast.


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Please do so because like I wrote before manufacturers like Garrett post their numbers at 25°F lower then stock and their intercooler is 30% larger then CVF. Mishimoto post at around 15°F lower then stock and their intercooler is about almost 20% larger then CVF and then you have CVF which claim to be 40°F lower at almost half the price and smallest size between all three. With my Mishimoto Intercooler i also did notice that in regular driving it does run little bit hotter then stock just like the other people posted about CVF so it is proven. It does drop the temp faster and more at WOT but also nowhere near 40°F

 

[19RaptorPB]

Please do so because like I wrote before manufacturers like Garrett post their numbers at 25°F lower then stock and their intercooler is 30% larger then CVF. Mishimoto post at around 15°F lower then stock and their intercooler is about almost 20% larger then CVF and then you have CVF which claim to be 40°F lower at almost half the price and smallest size between all three. With my Mishimoto Intercooler i also did notice that in regular driving it does run little bit hotter then stock just like the other people posted about CVF so it is proven. It does drop the temp faster and more at WOT but also nowhere near 40°F

Although size plays a role, it’s not the only part of the equation. The end tanks and the core play the biggest role aside from air moving through the intercooler. Did it ever occur to you that maybe the bigger sized intercoolers in the factory location could be a hindrance because of the lack of air flow getting through the entire intercooler instead of just the center? I don’t know for a fact if it is a factor but in my mind if there is cooler air in the middle with hot air around the edges, you’ll get warmer air overall.... just a thought.


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[Wojciech Gierczynski]

Although size plays a role, it’s not the only part of the equation. The end tanks and the core play the biggest role aside from air moving through the intercooler. Did it ever occur to you that maybe the bigger sized intercoolers in the factory location could be a hindrance because of the lack of air flow getting through the entire intercooler instead of just the center? I don’t know for a fact if it is a factor but in my mind if there is cooler air in the middle with hot air around the edges, you’ll get warmer air overall.... just a thought.


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Density of the intercooler will definitely play a role to an extent. They cannot make intercooler to dense because that would limt the airflow as for the airflow all other stock location aftermarket intercoolers would get very similar airflow since they are build to spec same dimensions (how wide they are and tall) as stock intercooler. The difference in aftermarket ones is the depth, core and end tanks which (end tanks) have pretty much same opening size to fit factory connections. If per say Garrett is 30% larger then CVF and claims 25°F temp drop then CVF Intercooler with probably same size end tanks would have to be twices more dense then Garrett to claim 40°F drop with being 30% smaller which would definitely block airflow.

 

[CVF-Jason]

He tested your intercooler on the Raptor and it was nowhere near 40°F difference vs. stock as you claim (F150 Ecoboost got this number per your testing). He stated yours and Stock Intercooler were tested at same ambient temps and IAT2 with your intercooler was at around 20°F lower then stock at WOT (so half of claimed 40°F). Wagner Intercooler was the one tested in 5°F hotter ambient temp and as expected ran still best temps. Per his tests your intercooler actually ran hotter temps then stock in normal driving situations. From what I recall your testing as far as I know was done by one person (thats the only info I could find) and it was done on F150 Ecoboost correct ... not Raptor (F150 runs way less boost). You state on your website that tests were done same day while the person doing the test posted in his video that it was done in two different days with some difference in temps. I believe his testing was also done in real life driving not on the dyno.
This is the video of initial testing of your intercooler in the link below ... correct? Dont get me wrong but this doesnt look like much testing to me especially since its not tested on the Raptor. I dont wont to get on your case but posting 40°F temp right across the board its not quite right in my mind since your "testing" was not even done on the Raptor. Thats like me testing new shocks on F150 and posting they work great and I have number to proof across whole Ford 1/5 ton pickup lineup?

The test on this video is not a test (not the one we detailed on the product page), it's his personal experience that he detailed.

The road test that we reference with the charts on the product page was done on the same road, on the same day (same ambient temperatures) on the same truck (F-150). It was in a controlled state (as much as possible).

 

[Wojciech Gierczynski]

The test on this video is not a test (not the one we detailed on the product page), it's his personal experience that he detailed.

The road test that we reference with the charts on the product page was done on the same road, on the same day (same ambient temperatures) on the same truck. It was in a controlled state (as much as possible).

Was your test done on the Raptor or F150 Ecoboost?

 

[CVF-Jason]

Was your test done on the Raptor or F150 Ecoboost?

The test that this thread is based on was done on a Raptor, the test on the product page was done on an F-150.

 

[Wojciech Gierczynski]

The test that this thread is based on was done on a Raptor, the test on the product page was done on an F-150.

So the chart on the product page claiming 40°F drop is the chart from F150 test correct and the first post that you can see around 20°F difference is from the Raptor.