Cold Start Noise - is it the cam phasers?

[JefferyGT]

Welcome to the Cam Phaser and the Wastegates World Tour!

You might have gotten some leftover phasers that were made with those Mexican hardened plastic pins...

Not shittn either.

 

[JefferyGT]

My advice... If they end up operating on your baby. Do not go look. The cab will be completely removed from the frame... And both heads and all four cams will be removed from her beating heart.

 

[Gary Gere]

Are you suggesting that Ford held a fiesta featuring the plastic Mexican pins?

 

[Donmatteo]

Even good, updated parts go bad. It happens.

 

[NHDude4]

That's what it sounds like?? Just makes the sound while cranking? I thought the cam phaser noise continued after cold starting until the engine warms up.

I thought maybe I had the issue but definitely don't if this is the characteristic sound.

 

[CCH]

My 2019 is in now for the phasers. Build date of April 2019.... do they really take the cab off?

 

[FordTechOne]

That's what it sounds like?? Just makes the sound while cranking? I thought the cam phaser noise continued after cold starting until the engine warms up.

I thought maybe I had the issue but definitely don't if this is the characteristic sound.

Yes. The noise only lasts 2-5 seconds on a cold start.

 

[FordTechOne]

Welcome to the Cam Phaser and the Wastegates World Tour!

You might have gotten some leftover phasers that were made with those Mexican hardened plastic pins...

Not shittn either.

The cam phasers are made in USA by Borg Warner.

The cylinder heads and cams are NOT removed to service the cam phasers. Only the front cover and valve covers.

 

[JefferyGT]

The cam phasers are made in USA by Borg Warner.

The cylinder heads and cams are NOT removed to service the cam phasers. Only the front cover and valve covers.

Thanks FordTechOne. You are a trusted source for information. I truly always appreciate your posts

Here is a youtube link of the cab removed for those plastic can phasers.

 

[FordTechOne]

I’ve been reading this forum for a long time now. I appreciate everyone’s insight comments opinions etc.

I special ordered this truck on 6-16-2019 the build date is 8-20-2019. It has been serviced exclusively by the selling dealer. I had the oil changed every ~3000 miles. It has 19k miles on it.

In reading past comments I was led to believe that Ford had fixed the cam phaser problem long before August 2019?

If the cam phasers in this engine are supposedly the “latest“ cam phasers something very weird is going on…

can anyone confirm any of this to be true?

The updated cam phasers (part level CC) went into production in July of 2018 on F-150. However, out of millions of phasers produced (4 per engine) that doesn’t mean there will never be a faulty one produced. Every mass produced part will have a failure rate.

To eliminate the specific locking pin failure mode that can occur due to variances in production tolerances, Ford released the CD service level part in 10/19. This part was redesigned internally to prevent the locking pin issue from occurring. This is the part that the dealer will install when performing the repair.