Ford Performance Tune for Gen 3s

[shigman]

I did watch a ranger raptor FP tune video where it gained more power after a week of driving. They dynoed it both times. I was curious if the same applied in this case.

 

[Gsteve]

I would buy the tune in a heartbeat if it did not grenade the 5/60k warranty. That's a crock of ****. I wouldn't get the far superior RRanger / RBronco tunes either due to that.

To the point above, absolutely agree. They pulled the same crap with 2023 F-150 heated steering wheel. Had no issues retrofitting the Lightnings with them, for free, however. The EV push that failed and which the record high ICE vehicle MSRPs are still subsidizing.

Bottom line is Ford does not care so long as the revenue flows.

if you install it yourself , does ford actually know you installed it? I paid 2000 for my extended warranty , not a chance im pissing that away

 

[trav7314]

if you install it yourself , does ford actually know you installed it? I paid 2000 for my extended warranty , not a chance im pissing that away

I have no clue to be honest. However, I would imagine Ford put something in the code that leaves a trace, so I am going to assume they would know...until someone proves otherwise.

 

[John813]

if you install it yourself , does ford actually know you installed it? I paid 2000 for my extended warranty , not a chance im pissing that away

Your VIN is attached to the procal and your stock tune is uploaded to the FP servers to get access to the Performance tune. But it doesn't mean you actually installed the tune. I don't think a red flag will pop up on your service advisors screen when they enter your vin.

Way I see it, 16hp and 44trq is not going to blow up the engine, transmission or rear end unless there was a defect already. And unless you experience catastrophic failure where a ford engineer is called out, I'm not going to sweat it on minor things. Or they check key cycles etc..

I do intervals of random service such as the transmission change and rear diff change once at the dealer I get service at, way before the service timing for the items. So no excuse of no records of those items serviced within the recommended mileage if it starts to whine or shift weird.

jmo

 

[tcm glx]

So funny how people are like nope, not gonna do the tune cause of warranty but have FMIC, intakes, exhaust mods, oil breathers etc etc. any of which could cause a denial.

It’s all gamble.

 

[Jwod1993]

Your VIN is attached to the procal and your stock tune is uploaded to the FP servers to get access to the Performance tune. But it doesn't mean you actually installed the tune. I don't think a red flag will pop up on your service advisors screen when they enter your vin.

Way I see it, 16hp and 44trq is not going to blow up the engine, transmission or rear end unless there was a defect already. And unless you experience catastrophic failure where a ford engineer is called out, I'm not going to sweat it on minor things. Or they check key cycles etc..

I do intervals of random service such as the transmission change and rear diff change once at the dealer I get service at, way before the service timing for the items. So no excuse of no records of those items serviced within the recommended mileage if it starts to whine or shift weird.

jmo

I agree with @John813 here. This tune is so conservative that it's not going to put the engine under additional stress, so I wouldn't worry about a big failure. Ford would also have to prove that the tune is what caused the failure anyway.

Way I look at it - if you have the tune, uninstall it and revert back to the stock tune prior to going into the dealer for service and/or a warranty issue. Make sure to uninstall it about a week prior so you get enough key cycles on the ECU. At the end of the day though it is a gamble and depends on your service writer.

It is BS that Ford is making us pay for this though. Trucks should've came from the factory like this.

 

[greatone99]

that might be the minimum output. I’d agree it seems more than that. It’s an adaptive tune so everyone’s results maybe different.

its not an adaptive tune , not sure where u got that from .its more than those numbers in some areas of the hp/tq/ band, those r the peak gains 16 and 40 , at some parts of the band it gains 54 ft lbs

 

[Turning Blue]

its not an adaptive tune , not sure where u got that from .its more than those numbers in some areas of the hp/tq/ band, those r the peak gains 16 and 40 , at some parts of the band it gains 54 ft lbs

I don't think the hp or torque changes except at different rpms, but the transmission adapts and light throttle driving is recommended until the shift quality stabilizes.

 

[fordfreek]

I agree with @John813 here. This tune is so conservative that it's not going to put the engine under additional stress, so I wouldn't worry about a big failure. Ford would also have to prove that the tune is what caused the failure anyway.

Way I look at it - if you have the tune, uninstall it and revert back to the stock tune prior to going into the dealer for service and/or a warranty issue. Make sure to uninstall it about a week prior so you get enough key cycles on the ECU. At the end of the day though it is a gamble and depends on your service writer.

It is BS that Ford is making us pay for this though. Trucks should've came from the factory like this.

Back in 2008 when I was a mechanic at a GM dealership we had a 6 liter burn a piston while under warranty. GM had me pull calibrations out of it. Had a tune in it. GM was going to deny warranty initially, but in the end they did cover it under the requirements that I reprogram it back to stock. Turns out every time the ecu was programmed it received a different number, so even though I put the stock calibration back into it, it was a different number and left a history of changes. So if they would have put the factory calibration back in it before it came to me, GM would have been able to see that. So , I believe once you tune it there's no going back. They will know. Just my 2 cents. All depends on burden of proof and the dealership you're dealing with.
Pretty hard to prove that it was specifically the tune that caused a failure.

 

[shigman]

its not an adaptive tune , not sure where u got that from .its more than those numbers in some areas of the hp/tq/ band, those r the peak gains 16 and 40 , at some parts of the band it gains 54 ft lbs

I think this is where the idea of the HP being adaptive is coming from.

Dynoed a week after driving and saw higher gains. That could just be error, but interesting either way.

Could also be differences between how the Ranger /vs F150 Raptor tunes work.