Chipwerke for 2017 Ecoboost

[slashrules]

If someone wants a smokin deal on my Chipwerke PM me. I am going the Whipple route and don't need this any more.

 

[Pedal Commander]

Is Chipwerke just a rebranded RaceChip?

No. Similar hardware, but completely different programming and software.

I did not speak to Chipwerke about my issues.

I'm sorry that you were unsatisfied with Chipwerke, I wish you would have given us the opportunity to troubleshoot with you. However, I am glad whatever vendor you purchased from was able to refund you.

This is as much proof as I need to deduct that this product is a scam.

Please do not take someone's guess at a return policy as "proof."

Chipwerke has a 30 day satisfaction guarantee (was previously 14 days). That means you can buy it from us, install it, and have 30 days from the date you receive it to form your own opinion on whether or not the product is for you.

If you don't like it, you can ship it back at your own expense (must be post marked by the 30th day) and we will apply a full refund for the product cost + tax. At the end of it, you pay $12.45 for us to ship it to you, and maybe $6 to send it back. $18-20 max cost to you to try a product out.

If you like it and decide to keep it beyond the 30 day satisfaction guarantee, you have a 2-year product warranty from the date you receive it. Any hardware failure or malfunction, we will replace it with a new one.

Your purchase also includes 2 years of software updates. If you go from a stock truck to a full build and want to take advantage of stage 2 software, cover shipping and we'll reprogram it for free. Moving across the country from 91 octane and finally get to put 93 octane or e85 in your truck? Cover shipping and we'll reprogram it for free.

https://www.chipwerke.com/warranty/

If you purchase from one of our authorized vendors, they go by their own return and refund policies. However, your 2-year product warranty goes through us.

 

[Smokeshow60]

No. Similar hardware, but completely different programming and software.



I'm sorry that you were unsatisfied with Chipwerke, I wish you would have given us the opportunity to troubleshoot with you. However, I am glad whatever vendor you purchased from was able to refund you.



Please do not take someone's guess at a return policy as "proof."

Chipwerke has a 30 day satisfaction guarantee (was previously 14 days). That means you can buy it from us, install it, and have 30 days from the date you receive it to form your own opinion on whether or not the product is for you.

If you don't like it, you can ship it back at your own expense (must be post marked by the 30th day) and we will apply a full refund for the product cost + tax. At the end of it, you pay $12.45 for us to ship it to you, and maybe $6 to send it back. $18-20 max cost to you to try a product out.

If you like it and decide to keep it beyond the 30 day satisfaction guarantee, you have a 2-year product warranty from the date you receive it. Any hardware failure or malfunction, we will replace it with a new one.

Your purchase also includes 2 years of software updates. If you go from a stock truck to a full build and want to take advantage of stage 2 software, cover shipping and we'll reprogram it for free. Moving across the country from 91 octane and finally get to put 93 octane or e85 in your truck? Cover shipping and we'll reprogram it for free.

https://www.chipwerke.com/warranty/

If you purchase from one of our authorized vendors, they go by their own return and refund policies. However, your 2-year product warranty goes through us.

Thanks Jax for the feedback. Would you mind posting a dyno chart and possibly reliability testing results on this product?

 

[Pedal Commander]

Here are the Mustang dyno results from testing we did on the 2017 F150 ecoboost (non-Raptor). As far as I've heard, the engines are nearly identical, but we're working on getting our hands on a Raptor to dyno for you guys.

Testing was done at Full Throttle Kustomz in Fillmore, CA on 9/12/17 at approximately 10am. About 80*F outside, elevation less than 1000 ft. The truck was on 91 octane.

Max 412 hp/497 tq at 5,700 RPM.

Can you elaborate on what you mean by "reliability testing"? Chipwerke itself has been manufactured and sold for over 3 years in the United States, and years beyond that in Europe. While it is new to the Ford platform, our previous experiences in the German automotive community have proven the product to be safe by all measures.

 

[Jmorris]

Bought and installed CW/PC combo. Here is my 2 cents......

Install- super easy obviously

Issues- During learning process the truck threw a wrench/check engine light and went into limp mode(came to conclusion that I gave it the beans to quick and truck said F you). Cleared codes using Ngauge. Drove easy while slowly getting more aggressive on the throttle for around 30 miles. Gave the ecu time to adjust to the new boost and fuel settings. After that the truck had no more issues throwing check engine light. It does have some slight hesitation at certain times. After a few days it has almost completely gone away but still not perfect. Hopefully chipwerke can address the hesitation issue as it's my only complaint

Performance- My friend and I have identical raptors minus paint color.
(CW setting 1-1 PC setting city+4) My friend and I swapped back and forth from his to mine and it truly is a very impressive power gain. We raced 3 times from 0-90. At 90mph we both agreed the CW/PC raptor put about 2 school bus lengths on the stock raptor. It was a very convincing win each time. In fact the first time we raced was from a 20 roll. He went on first honk and jumped way out. I easily caught and passed him and proceeded to school bus his ass. He said "Dude that was embarrassing"
(CW setting 3-1 PC setting city+4) Don't think I gave it time to "learn". Truck was very jerky and actually only slightly faster than stock raptor. Never tried 2-1 setting.

Overall- The truck feels like it has the same torque curve as my 17 raptor did with the MPT tune. Monster power from 3-5k rpm but falls off at the top. Honestly it's not much slower than the MPT tune I was running which really impressed me.

Conclusion- I bought this for temporary use until I can do my full bolt ons and custom tune on the 18. Even comparing it to a reputable tune I am impressed. It definitely has flaws but compared to stock it is so much more fun to drive now that I think it's worth it(going from tuned back to stock is miserable lol). Don't buy this over a custom tune by any means but if you are "concerned about warranty" then this is a good option.

 

[Turk10mm]

Pedal Commander, I have had my Chipwerke installed for going on 2 weeks. I experience intermittent behavior problems during medium to hard acceleration. Its not all the time but its definitely some of the time and I can find no reason for when it picks the time to do the below different things.

My settings are, 2018, 2-1 (dropped to 1-1 for 3-5 days after suggestion from Matthew Ringgold. There was no different). 93 octane fuel. 65-75 degrees F.

1. Bogs on Launch intermittently. I have video (which i can send you if you'd like) that shows a 0 mph launch. The RPM at idle drops 500 rpm immediately. There's no loss of traction because the rpm hadn't even started to climb. During the drop in rpm the boost guage begins climbing which is odd to say the least. After the drop the truck runs normally. I have confirmed this happening with TC and Stability control completely off. So it was not the truck being a nanny on wheel spin.

2. Strange feeling shifts. I don't know how else to explain it.

3. Momentary drops in power at full throttle. Sometimes its just one sometimes its a stutter of multiple. This can happen at low speed or even freeway speeds in 2H, 4H, and with TC or Stability Control alltogether on or off. They are varying in length but short. Just annoying. you can tell something has decided to cut power.

4. The most concerning of the symptoms is hearing/feeling the engine bucking usually in tandem with #3 above. When this happens it feels like the engine is torquing. Its not significant and doesn't feel like its dangerous, but you can feel what I believe to be the engine physically gaining and losing torque to the point that its moving on mounts. This seems to have faded to some extent. I don't really remember feeling it lately so maybe this was part of the learning.

To summarize, when its working without any of the above symptoms it really does provide power. I consistently get about .3+ lower 0-60 tested with a very simple iphone app so YMMV. But I feel like there's extra power across the curve and most importantly lower in teh rpm range when it felt like it was short on power stock (due to turbo lag.)

I'm happy to discuss more, provide video, have someone ride along (I'm in Houston) or even take it to a race shop to have them get some information off of it, if you'll cover the cost.

Turk

 

[Jmorris]

After reading Turks post I will say I have felt some strange shifts on occasion also. Seems to do it in normal mode. Haven't noticed it in tow/haul or sport. But yes it def has some quirks that Chipwerke/pedal commander need to figure out. If they can fix the quirks it's really an impressive product.

 

[kpg81]

The shifting issue is the PCM's torque managment algorithms preventing high torque shifts. Technically it shouldn't do that in sport mode or higher, and only in normal mode where TM is more aggressive.

Likely cannot be fixed in Chipwerke... And only via custom tune.

 

[Turk10mm]

I put the delete plug on this morning and all the quirks are gone. Matthrw ring gold had stopped replying to me.

 

[Jmorris]

I put the delete plug on this morning and all the quirks are gone. Matthrw ring gold had stopped replying to me.

Delete plug??