Cam Phaser debacle

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FordTechOne

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I had the exact same issue, P0018 and P0021 codes. Engine rattle that kept getting worse, Loss of power and Misfiring while idling, truck actually shut off at a light.

Dealer replaced cam phasers and timing chain. But this did not fix the issue other than the rattle.

Took it back, and dealer replaced the Cam shaft actuators as this was their next best guess of what the issue could be.

Truck seems to be having no issues at this point.
New member and 1st post I see. Welcome; please feel free to introduce yourself in the New Member section. And the obligatory pictures of course!

The DTCs you listed are not cam phaser related; those indicate a physical timing issue. Did you buy the truck used? There are no cam shaft actuators, only VCT solenoids and sprockets. Perhaps they replaced the VCT solenoids to resolve the issue? Glad it's running well now.
 

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New member and 1st post I see. Welcome; please feel free to introduce yourself in the New Member section. And the obligatory pictures of course!

The DTCs you listed are not cam phaser related; those indicate a physical timing issue. Did you buy the truck used? There are no cam shaft actuators, only VCT solenoids and sprockets. Perhaps they replaced the VCT solenoids to resolve the issue? Glad it's running well now.
Truck was brand new, 2019 that I ordered after Ford bought my 2018 back. And I was told camshaft actuator by the dealer, but after looking into it, it does look like it was the solenoids.
 

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approx. 60,000 km (Canadian here)
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Had sun roof issue at 1 year, as well as doors freezing recall. Both fixed.
Had the cam phasor ecm flash recall, got that done, but no cam phasor ratlle (yet).
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does anyone know after you get the camphasers fixed under warranty is there any type of extended warranty they have to provide coverage for? i would think if the phasers gop out within the next year or something strange that they would have to be held liable in some way right?
 

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does anyone know after you get the camphasers fixed under warranty is there any type of extended warranty they have to provide coverage for? i would think if the phasers gop out within the next year or something strange that they would have to be held liable in some way right?
It’s detailed in the 21N03 campaign letter. Phaser coverage is pro-rated to 89,999 miles.
 

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I understand that but that’s for first time cam phaser issues but you’re out of warranty I believe. I’m asking if you’ve already had them done under warranty is there any extended coverage as I would find it hard to believe if you had them done at 89,999 miles and then they break again or have issues at 91,000 miles would you really be required to front another $3-4k…
 

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I understand that but that’s for first time cam phaser issues but you’re out of warranty I believe. I’m asking if you’ve already had them done under warranty is there any extended coverage as I would find it hard to believe if you had them done at 89,999 miles and then they break again or have issues at 91,000 miles would you really be required to front another $3-4k…
That’s a dealer workmanship issue at that point, so they would need to take care of it. There haven’t been repeat issues with the updated parts.
 
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