Bumper weight effect suspension

[JJ f150harley]

I wouldnt be surprised if it is slightly compressed

So I will see some compression with that?

400 pound bumper? That's pretty heavy...


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Is that heavy? I'm thinking something like an iron bull set up with the headlight guard. Am I over estimating?

 

[Bulletnjm]

I mean 400lbs seems heavy to me, maybe someone else can comment?

 

[Taxman]

400lbs increase for a bumper? What the hell kind of bumper are you putting on there? An ADD Stealth is a big bumper and it's about 150lbs. A 10k winch is about 100lbs, less if you go with a synthetic rope. Even if you add lights, it won't reach 400lbs. Remember, you also have to subtract the ~40lbs from the stock bumper.

I think in general, you might increase the weight up front by 100-150lbs depending on what bumper and winch combination you go with. If you want to see what effect it has on the truck, open your hood and have your girlfriend sit on the front bumper and see how much it sags.

 

[JJ f150harley]

I mean 400lbs seems heavy to me, maybe someone else can comment?

Yea 3/16 plating with 1 1/2 in tubing with a winch and train horns mounted is gonna be heavy. 400 is just a guess.

400lbs increase for a bumper? What the hell kind of bumper are you putting on there? An ADD Stealth is a big bumper and it's about 150lbs. A 10k winch is about 100lbs, less if you go with a synthetic rope. Even if you add lights, it won't reach 400lbs. Remember, you also have to subtract the ~40lbs from the stock bumper.

I think in general, you might increase the weight up front by 100-150lbs depending on what bumper and winch combination you go with. If you want to see what effect it has on the truck, open your hood and have your girlfriend sit on the front bumper and see how much it sags.

I might be over estimating a little. I have a smittybuilt synthetic winch and it says 100lbs. Hahaha my gf is only 120 and 5'4", she didn't sink it, my buddy and I did 420lbs haha.

This is what I'm thinking is 400lbs. I want to do something like this, but trimmed in the corners and a little higher all around.

 

[Bulletnjm]

Wow, plan on driving through buildings with the truck? Lol

 

[JJ f150harley]

Wow, plan on driving through buildings with the truck? Lol

Hahaha this is what I have, took it off to do a suspension conversion. Had a shop make it for me. Told them I need to hit a deer and be able to keep going. I travel a lot of back roads going to and from my cabin/hunting property. I'm thinking something like this again, but I'm concerned with the weight on the fox system, I'm still trying to figure out if I need something like this or the tube style with a grille guard/center hoop.

 

[Bulletnjm]

Ill tell ya what, throw the shocks on top perch and i bet it would be golden

 

[JJ f150harley]

Ill tell ya what, throw the shocks on top perch and i bet it would be golden

Thank you sir!!! Im going to talk with the shop and see if making one a bit cut back on the sides and trimmed up will cut a decent amount of weight, or see if they can do a tube style with the same strength. But that will be this summer, I can't be without the truck now

 

[Prybar]

To each their own. Just remember these trucks weren't designed to haul around a plow up front. They were designed to be balanced from front to rear for max performance in all conditions. If you are planning to add 400lbs to the front you would need higher rate springs and stiffer dampening to bring it back close to stock performance. If you aren't concerned with all that, then setting the preload to top perch may get most of your ride height back but at the cost of front suspension performance. And if you aren't at all concerned with suspension performance...why a Raptor instead of a super duty?

 

[JJ f150harley]

To each their own. Just remember these trucks weren't designed to haul around a plow up front. They were designed to be balanced from front to rear for max performance in all conditions. If you are planning to add 400lbs to the front you would need higher rate springs and stiffer dampening to bring it back close to stock performance. If you aren't concerned with all that, then setting the preload to top perch may get most of your ride height back but at the cost of front suspension performance. And if you aren't at all concerned with suspension performance...why a Raptor instead of a super duty?

Thanks Prybar, this is what I'm looking for, all the true harsh comments. I want to have the raw truth, and I thank you all for it, that is what makes this the best forum I've been on!!! I'm just skeptical on a tube bumper handling a deer, but after having run that bumper, you all are right I can't run that big thing without severely ruining my entire front end. I'm realizing reality about it.

And the reason for not getting a superduty, needed a truck in 5 days, wanted one with a 6.2, and needed something at the time that fit into the garage, width wise!!

Thank you all for the comments and keep them coming!!!! I love hearing the comments from more experienced people, and since I've only been offroading for 3 yrs I'm still just breaking in!!