Brenthel long travel install

[ntm]

Ur way behond abs my friend......ditch abs/advance track....and then airbags....you might have a truck then........oh wait you paid 50k for that computer system.....better keep it. Lol

Incorrect, I paid $50,000 for a nicely integrated package that is a stock Ford raptor. And then I worked it until it had paid for itself,, and wore it out to the point where I didn't feel bad attacking it with a sawzall and welder !

The whole point to not just doing a true four link, center mount a arms, interior cage, LS based engine with central mounting, is to keep some sembelence of a daily driver. Something that can make long trips to play areas, and comfortably explore them. And still be used to tow/haul things.
I've built vehicles in the past that turned into full blown engineering projects. They abandoned a/c, air bags, abs, trac control, windshield wipers, horns, etc. and we're great at their very narrow task they were built for, but not enjoyable 99% of the time.
Believe me, if I wanted to go hard at this, I wouldn't be starting with an f150 at all, but with a whole bunch of tubing and a chassis table.
Or at very least a ranger or a taco. They are better choices for a serious build, financially and performance wise.

 

[circafwsk8r]

I know.....I was just messing w you...

You seem as if you have the ability to do a 4 link.....they can be done pretty cheap as in .... around what you have into yours.....that is if you do the fab work yourself......where I'm in the dark is the fuel system....can you run an inline fuel pump with say a fuel safe and be done with it on the newer for trucks.....I know u need to trick or integrate evap....but is the fuel pressure that easy to run as long as ur inline pump is close the stock fuel pump?

 

[ntm]

I know.....I was just messing w you...

You seem as if you have the ability to do a 4 link.....they can be done pretty cheap as in .... around what you have into yours.....that is if you do the fab work yourself......where I'm in the dark is the fuel system....can you run an inline fuel pump with say a fuel safe and be done with it on the newer for trucks.....I know u need to trick or integrate evap....but is the fuel pressure that easy to run as long as ur inline pump is close the stock fuel pump?

You can do an in tank as well, it's all been done before.
I didn't link it because I want the bed. I haul kayaks back there often, among other things.
And when you four link, you need a cab cage, and consequently things get real loud. The line has to be drawn somewhere, the Ddl kit is nice as it bridges the gap between leafs and linking, in terms of performance and acceptable compromises to comfort and every day usability.

 

[circafwsk8r]

Well curious to hear your feedback..... If it works good the simplicity is nice....I would build my own cage....rear end and wiy links fuel safe for $4600 ish so I'm trying to justify dumping pretty much that much in just the dd system......

 

[SDHQJASON]

Well curious to hear your feedback..... If it works good the simplicity is nice....I would build my own cage....rear end and wiy links fuel safe for $4600 ish so I'm trying to justify dumping pretty much that much in just the dd system......

If you are planning on driving the truck every day, or even regularly, I wouldn't recommend linking a truck. Street mannerisms will go down significantly. Towing goes down significantly.

The stock fuel system on a Raptor is a nightmare to work with when trying to swap to a fuel cell.

$4,600 is WAY low if you want to do it properly. You can spend that much in just a rear axle. I wouldn't trust a stock Ford 9.75 axle off road for too long if you plan on really using it.

I would highly recommend doing A LOT more research before attempting a build like this on your truck.

 

[ntm]

Well curious to hear your feedback..... If it works good the simplicity is nice....I would build my own cage....rear end and wiy links fuel safe for $4600 ish so I'm trying to justify dumping pretty much that much in just the dd system......

Doing a linked setup is a slippery slope. What looks affordable actually isn't. You're kidding yourself if you think it'll be less than $15,000, with no labour costs, to do it right.
The cost of the link kit and stuff is actually not bad, it's buying the coilovers, bypasses, and bumps. Tubing for the interior cage, new seats, harnesses, com system, rear end, fuel system, brake lines, limit straps, hardware, etc.
It's all the little stuff that adds up and kills you.
If I had been smarter, I'd have purchased someone else's half completed project for pennies on the dollar !

 

[circafwsk8r]

You guys have valid points

Drive ability is not an issue for me
Towing is not an issue for me
I don't have to buy a bolt on currie axle from sdhq for 6k
I was saying I could easily have them 3 main parts (axle fuel cell lower links) for the price of dd kit. Shocks are errelivant to my point because I'm buying them w either setup. My labor is free as I enjoy building my own stuff as much or more as using it. I live in MI I stated before its mostly dune riding I do..... I typically buy second hand parts I watch for deals all the time and know what parts go for. Everyone one has opinions and there budgets differ.....

Yes Jason I'm in the dark w the fuel system....that's the main reason the dd kit interests me.... Until I did enough research or was enlightened about what it takes.....I know I could have a custom cell made to utilize oem fuel pump....but not entirely safe.......again can't wait to hear how this setup works with ford v8 power!!!!

 

[ntm]

...again can't wait to hear how this setup works with ford v8 power!!!!

That was a major concern of mine, but Geoff says they've got a ddl kit on an f250 diesel that's working well.

To refine what I was talking about in my previous post, a four link will definitely cost more than the ddl kit, regardless of no labour costs. Not because of the kit costs themselves, but because of what is necessary, past just the fuel system, to support it.
When you call outlaw and get a $35,000 quote for doing a full four link/interior cage, your first impulse is to throw the phone at the wall. But if you sit down and really detail what is necessary to purchase, right down to the sway bar mounts and hardware, you see that it's actually pretty reasonable.
You will for sure over $3500 for a quality 9" axle, bolt in or not...

 

[1ntheoc]

Doing a linked setup is a slippery slope. What looks affordable actually isn't. You're kidding yourself if you think it'll be less than $15,000, with no labour costs, to do it right.
The cost of the link kit and stuff is actually not bad, it's buying the coilovers, bypasses, and bumps. Tubing for the interior cage, new seats, harnesses, com system, rear end, fuel system, brake lines, limit straps, hardware, etc.
It's all the little stuff that adds up and kills you.
If I had been smarter, I'd have purchased someone else's half completed project for pennies on the dollar !

So true. Don't forget front and rear glass and paint. And, I've been unpleasantly surprised how quickly consumables add up... hole saws, argon, step bits, band saw blades, tungsten, cutting fluid, flap discs, cut off wheels, sanding belts, etc. lol

 

[bstoner59]

This looks good! Can't wait to see the finished product


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