Anyone go from a Gen 3 Raptor to EV Lightning ?

[SoCalRey]

LOL. I saw this post and KNEW this would be a good read.

 

[John M BUNMAN]

 

[John M BUNMAN]

 

[New recaros]

 

[Shark]

Here are my thoughts from someone that actually owns both a Raptor (I'm on my 3rd one since 2011) AND an EV. My wife wanted an EV as her next vehicle and I suggested we get the Ford Mach E GT and we ordered and received it at the end of 2021. The acceleration and torque in an EV is a lot of fun and addictive. The Mach-E will beat my Coyote-powered Shelby Cobra replica to 60, no doubt, but that is mostly because I wouldn't be able to get the traction needed to keep up. With the EV you just point it and stomp it and and it grips and goes like a scalded cat. They are nice daily drivers if you fit the profile:

1) You have a home and a 240V Level 2 charger where you can plug it in every night.
2) Your average daily driving range is under 200 miles per day.
3) You like tech and tinkering with a tablet and get excited about software updates.
4) You have an additional ICE vehicle for long trips or when you don't want the hassle of charging on the road.

If you live where it gets below freezing, keep in mind you will lose on average about 20% range in the cold (not 50% as some have stated). If you plan to tow with the Lightning - don't. Towing with an EV sucks. It will drop your range down to something like 90 miles before you need to charge. If you plan to use a public charger, go to https://www.plugshare.com/ and plug in your zip code. Set the filters to CCS plug and look for chargers > 70kW for fast charging. I think the Ford EV's can handle up to 150kW. Anything less than 50kW is slow and sucks. In my area, there are NO public chargers > 50kW within 20 miles of my home. None.

Sorry to interrupt the "you aren't saving the planet, *******!" replies with some actual EV facts, but I have actually owned one for 2 years now and I'm a far-right conservative that sells "assault weapons" for a living and has daily driven a Raptor since 2011 so I think I have a unique perspective

 

[GordoJay]

Here are my thoughts from someone that actually owns both a Raptor (I'm on my 3rd one since 2011) AND an EV. My wife wanted an EV as her next vehicle and I suggested we get the Ford Mach E GT and we ordered and received it at the end of 2021. The acceleration and torque in an EV is a lot of fun and addictive. The Mach-E will beat my Coyote-powered Shelby Cobra replica to 60, no doubt, but that is mostly because I wouldn't be able to get the traction needed to keep up. With the EV you just point it and stomp it and and it grips and goes like a scalded cat. They are nice daily drivers if you fit the profile:

1) You have a home and a 240V Level 2 charger where you can plug it in every night.
2) Your average daily driving range is under 200 miles per day.
3) You like tech and tinkering with a tablet and get excited about software updates.
4) You have an additional ICE vehicle for long trips or when you don't want the hassle of charging on the road.

If you live where it gets below freezing, keep in mind you will lose on average about 20% range in the cold (not 50% as some have stated). If you plan to tow with the Lightning - don't. Towing with an EV sucks. It will drop your range down to something like 90 miles before you need to charge. If you plan to use a public charger, go to https://www.plugshare.com/ and plug in your zip code. Set the filters to CCS plug and look for chargers > 70kW for fast charging. I think the Ford EV's can handle up to 150kW. Anything less than 50kW is slow and sucks. In my area, there are NO public chargers > 50kW within 20 miles of my home. None.

Sorry to interrupt the "you aren't saving the planet, *******!" replies with some actual EV facts, but I have actually owned one for 2 years now and I'm a far-right conservative that sells "assault weapons" for a living and has daily driven a Raptor since 2011 so I think I have a unique perspective

I agree with everything you said. I do have a question or two. First, you're losing 20% in the cold. Is that Texas cold, or Minnesota cold? The other is whether you've left the Mach E parked out in the cold at an airport. A friend left his fully-charged Tesla in Denver when he took a business trip. It was dead when he returned. It turns out that they heat the battery pack if it gets too cold. Which drains said pack. Denver isn't all that cold, but it was dead in five days. Park it outside in the winter in any place that gets really cold? You will lose a fair amount of charge overnight. Which circles us back to: You need a heated garage with 220. Which brings us back to one of my points, they're second cars for rich people, not the be all, end all.

 

[Teledatgeek]

I agree with everything you said. I do have a question or two. First, you're losing 20% in the cold. Is that Texas cold, or Minnesota cold? The other is whether you've left the Mach E parked out in the cold at an airport. A friend left his fully-charged Tesla in Denver when he took a business trip. It was dead when he returned. It turns out that they heat the battery pack if it gets too cold. Which drains said pack. Denver isn't all that cold, but it was dead in five days. Park it outside in the winter in any place that gets really cold? You will lose a fair amount of charge overnight. Which circles us back to: You need a heated garage with 220. Which brings us back to one of my points, They're second cars for rich people, not the be all, end all.

You certainly do not need a heated garage. However, it's good practice to leave plugged in to precondition the vehicle when you're ready to drive. I wouldn't get an EV unless I had a garage where I could keep it plugged in. Your buddy didn't have the settings right on his Tesla - he likely left the surveillance stuff on which burns lots of power and is well documented. I would say you lose 40% of your range in the coldest winter months in Western NY.

We're not ready to just have EV's with our climate and driving needs. But within a few years, I think it'll get there.

 

[thatJeepguy]

I agree with everything you said. I do have a question or two. First, you're losing 20% in the cold. Is that Texas cold, or Minnesota cold? The other is whether you've left the Mach E parked out in the cold at an airport. A friend left his fully-charged Tesla in Denver when he took a business trip. It was dead when he returned. It turns out that they heat the battery pack if it gets too cold. Which drains said pack. Denver isn't all that cold, but it was dead in five days. Park it outside in the winter in any place that gets really cold? You will lose a fair amount of charge overnight. Which circles us back to: You need a heated garage with 220. Which brings us back to one of my points, they're second cars for rich people, not the be all, end all.

The moral of the story regarding EV’s is always :

“ look you’re just going to have to look past these really illogical and counter productive traits.”

Meanwhile its literally communism in a car format.

>Shared misery
>Costs a shit ton of money (unaffordable for the masses)
>Still greatly pollutes the environment
>Massive expenditures to upgrade the infrastructure which some politions brother inlaw will get the huge multi million $ contract for.
>used market is shit because battery pack is useless and the equivalent of doing a motor swap every 8 years.

 

[GordoJay]

.... Your buddy didn't have the settings right on his Tesla - he likely left the surveillance stuff on which burns lots of power and is well documented ...

It's possible, but he's a total tech geek. Like memorize the manual geek. Willing to put up with all of the problems geek. Learns about and uses every obscure feature geek. He bought one of the first available and has been upgrading every few years since then. If it was well documented I have to think he would have been aware of it. Or maybe it was documented after a few people like him provided feedback. I could believe that. Next time I run into him I'll ask.

 

[GordoJay]

You certainly do not need a heated garage. However, it's good practice to leave plugged in to precondition the vehicle when you're ready to drive.

True. But you need a secure area to park ... which takes us right back around to ... rich people.