5 point harness? Possible without a cage?

[Huck]

What's so different between the front seat and the back seat? Other than being 2 feet further back?

 

[Yukon Joe]

What's so different between the front seat and the back seat? Other than being 2 feet further back?

In the SCREWs, the rear seat does not lock in place, therefore it will bounce up when riding rough waves or jumping. It is also not as cushy, or perhaps better put, it doesn't have the same suspension as the front seat.

Check out my video from TRR with the camera facing into the cab It is in the TRR video thread. You will see my buddy in the back seat bouncing around as we go over the 5 rollers on the back half of the first part of the track.

You might have to look up Nicole's YouTube page to find it. Sorry, I can't link it from my phone.

Yukon Joe
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[MotuMute]

Where does one find these strong binder clips for seat belts?

 

[treypal]

Office Depot

 

[CB Freshness]

Office Depot

So you would suggest a full cage to go with a 5 point

 

[A.I.I.Raciing]

Use a large binder clip to hold the belt in the position you want it, and it wont lock up on you where you don't want it to.



Backs don't break just because your belt/harness isn't tight enough. The suspension of the seat has a bunch todo with it, and Raptor seats have suspension in them. This give allows your body to compress into the seat, and then stop suddenly when you bottom out. This is how most offroad back breaks can happen. There is a big debate in offroad racing between suspension seats, and shell seats because of this. Suspension seats are more comfortable but can break your back much easier.

Also shoulder harnesses have a certain angle that they need to be mounted at to work properly. 0 - negative 20 degrees. Anything beyond that can cause back injuries.

Lastly, stock belts allow you to conform to the truck in the event of a serious rollover, where 4 pts/5pts hold you exactly where you are, I realize that these trucks seem to be able to take a roll pretty well, but in the event of a major one, you're going to get squished.

Lap belts and shoulder harnesses are great for offroading, but doing them without a cage is asking for trouble. I have some new mastercraft harnesses on order for my prerunner, when I get them, I'll do a full writeup on how harnesses should be properly installed in a truck with a cage.

I realize that everyone that's doing this mod is aware of the risks. I just wanted to give another opinion on people considering it...

Until you do a write up here's one from RedArt

 

[MotuMute]

I will say this - I ran with the stock seatbelts again this year at TRR where I drove much faster and harder than the previous year when my truck was bone stock. The seatbelts were hardly noticeable. Why? Suspension upgrades.

Instead of lowperch - the truck was between mid & top perch with the 3.0's (plus aftermarket rods, uca's, bumpstop kit, and 37's). This was a completely different animal and just soaked up the badness that caused so much grief the year before. My seatbelt snugged some, but negligible compared to before.