2023 Torsen?

[tm965]

I’m happy my 2023 doesn’t have one. My 2020 went through 3. And never really used the truck for off road work. 2 times on a highway was enough for me to hate it.

how????

 

[jpk]

For further demonstration of what I mentioned with the Land Rovers, here's a video showing a Range Rover Evoque with wheels in the air still getting traction to the wheel on the ground. The Range Rover Evoque is the silver car, the Discovery Sport is the white one. A Torsen differential would actually fail in this situation. But the brake based traction control pumps the brake on the Evoque when it has a wheel in the air and forces power to the wheel on the ground. You can see the wheel turn in small amounts and then get stopped. If the Raptor now has this ability, it will probably be better for getting out of things than having a Torsen.

 

[tm965]

For further demonstration of what I mentioned with the Land Rovers, here's a video showing a Range Rover Evoque with wheels in the air still getting traction to the wheel on the ground. The Range Rover Evoque is the silver car, the Discovery Sport is the white one. A Torsen differential would actually fail in this situation. But the brake based traction control pumps the brake on the Evoque when it has a wheel in the air and forces power to the wheel on the ground. You can see the wheel turn in small amounts and then get stopped. If the Raptor now has this ability, it will probably be better for getting out of things than having a Torsen.

i dont think there is new traction control tech taking place of the torsen guys (the torsen trucks have it too), it's more so hey we're removing the dif for supply chain and profit reasons with the talk track being its not really necessary (which is likely true)

 

[jpk]

If the Tremor or the older Raptor with Torsen has the exact same traction control management system, then I'm kinda pissed again.

 

[MNLeadfoot]

Does anyone know if turning off the advanced trac have any effect on the supposed brake bias replacement?

 

[xlover]

Does anyone know if turning off the advanced trac have any effect on the supposed brake bias replacement?

i think from reading reviews of the raptor R the answer is no, reviewers commented that the brakes were working no matter what the setting was, even specifically trying to donuts in 2wd on sand

 

[MNLeadfoot]

i think from reading reviews of the raptor R the answer is no, reviewers commented that the brakes were working no matter what the setting was, even specifically trying to donuts in 2wd on sand

I wonder if they has anything to do with the clicking I hear while drifting in snow with advanced track off

 

[Zybane]

i dont think there is new traction control tech taking place of the torsen guys (the torsen trucks have it too), it's more so hey we're removing the dif for supply chain and profit reasons with the talk track being its not really necessary (which is likely true)

Off-roading in my '23 37PP with no Torsen, I've never seen my front brakes send power to the wheel still in contact with the ground, ever. No matter the mode selector. I literally don't think the truck has brake biased traction control at low speed.

 

[LVsFINEST]

I had agonized over a F-150 or F-250 Tremor vs a Raptor and ultimately went with the Raptor because I thought it had the Torsen in front like the Tremors and even more features.

Of all the many reasons to get a Raptor, I never knew Torsen was so high up on the list.

 

[NJ2020]

Of all the many reasons to get a Raptor, I never knew Torsen was so high up on the list.

Just wait until you encounter Chevy guys talk about their front locker.