2019 Trouble

[smurfslayer]

So that’s what a ticking noise is. It usually goes away after few minutes. Should I be concerned? Truck runs perfect tho. 2019 and 7k miles. Production date was November 5

User formerly known as sasquatch77 is trolling you.

So many ecoboost F150s on the road with no problems.

 

[WraptorBoy]

View attachment 123435 Tech notes-

Hey Chase!

How is your Raptor now? Any anomalies after the repair? How many miles you got now?

Update please!!

 

[chase99]

All good so far! Up to 10k on mileage. Sounds like my Fox was just in time. Phasers May be b/o for 3 months!
Thanks

 

[BaseRaptor]

Great to hear!

This cam phaser issue reminds me of the early water cooled Porsche 911/Boxster IMS (Intermediate Shaft Bearing) failure, an issue that was would only affect a small percentage of vehicles. Owners felt like they were driving a ticking time bomb. The result was catastrophic engine failure and owners were left with a HUGE repair bill to have the engine replaced. A class action lawsuit followed years later.

Curious what Ford dealers charge for a cam phaser repair after the warranty period is over.​

 

[chase99]

I heard somewhere around 4 to 5k for the Phaser replacement and fix.

 

[Gsteve]

I think in Canada it was near5500

 

[BaseRaptor]

What I don’t understand is why the cam phaser issue is still happening 2-3 years after it was first discovered. 2019’s are subject to the failure just like 2017 and 2018’s were. Vendor quality control issue?

 

[WraptorBoy]

What I don’t understand is why the cam phaser issue is still happening 2-3 years after it was first discovered. 2019’s are subject to the failure just like 2017 and 2018’s were. Vendor quality control issue?

My guess is Ford has hundreds of already built engines in a stockpile ready for installation. Probably enough for the next year or two. That could explain why some of the latest 2019s are still having these issues. And, if the engine isn't changing due to re-engineering, the stockpile will continue to be used for 2020s and so on.

To Ford, they just ask a question: is it cheaper to repair these issues as they come in or break down all the engines we already built, research and resdeign the parts and potentially hamper sales? I think we know that answer.

I had a 2017 Charger. In 2015, there was a radiator clamp defect that got into production and caused brand new cars to leak water. Nice! They fixed it by adding a second clamp when you brought the car in for the repair. You'd think they'd have redesigned and fixed the issue for future vehicles not even built yet. Nope! I had a 2017 I ordered and built and it had the same fix for the 2015... A secondary radiator clamp. So, clearly, they had thousands or more cars/parts, whatever, already built and weren't going to fix them... just repair.

Toyota solves a lot of these issues by using "Kanban": Build only what you need. So if a problem is found they can identify it right away, fix it, and going forward use the new design without much waste.

Unfortunately, people like me (and everyone else) order the truck knowing there is a small chance I'll get a lemon and just hope I don't.

 

[ssls6]

The service order said “replace all 4 phasers (raptor)”....does the normal Ecoboost not have 4 phasers or are the phasers somewhat different?

 

[TXRaptor]

The service order said “replace all 4 phasers (raptor)”....does the normal Ecoboost not have 4 phasers or are the phasers somewhat different?

Seems odd to have one only post after almost 4.5 years of registering...