2019 raptor tune MPT or COBB

[Nood1es]

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[TwizzleStix]

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so which tune is getting better numbers?

In pure technical terms, the Cobb tune results in slightly more power as seen in the data. However, in the “feels” terms, the MPT will feel better because they include their trans shifting tune as well. When Cobb finally(?) gets their knowledge base filled in on the trans tuning, I’m confident their’s will be as good or better in the “feels” terms. That said, either tuning solution will deliver more power with a dyno tune by your favorite shop.
There’s no magic or special techniques in tuning a turbo (or any) engine for power output. Every situation is a compromise in power vs longevity. Pick your poison. Power or longevity. You can’t have both to the max. When you opt for more power, the longevity will suffer somewhat... it’s all in your perspective and pocketbook.

 

[skerzz]

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In pure technical terms, the Cobb tune results in slightly more power as seen in the data. However, in the “feels” terms, the MPT will feel better because they include their trans shifting tune as well. When Cobb finally(?) gets their knowledge base filled in on the trans tuning, I’m confident their’s will be as good or better in the “feels” terms. That said, either tuning solution will deliver more power with a dyno tune by your favorite shop.
There’s no magic or special techniques in tuning a turbo (or any) engine for power output. Every situation is a compromise in power vs longevity. Pick your poison. Power or longevity. You can’t have both to the max. When you opt for more power, the longevity will suffer somewhat... it’s all in your perspective and pocketbook.

Is there a “sweet spot” in tuning performance gain while limiting negative impact on longevity? Something like the 80/20 rule apply or is it a more linear relationship?

 

[Krillin]

Just loaded mpt 91 tune... 1300 kms... Omfg it's so awesome! Love it! I'm gonna blow thru gas and fill up 94octane and load the 93 tune

Smile from ear to ear

Thank you MPT

 

[TwizzleStix]

Is there a “sweet spot” in tuning performance gain while limiting negative impact on longevity? Something like the 80/20 rule apply or is it a more linear relationship?

There's no formula that can be applied universally for sure. Bear in mind though, that when the words "decreased longevity" are used in relation to power mods, the term means different things to different people. There's so few people that drive a vehicle long enough to see any actual longevity impacts, like the difference in rotating parts failing at 250k miles or 300k miles. It really is a moot point unless/until you are beyond the basic tuning and into adding hard parts like water/methanol injection, oxygenators like mixing ethanol/gas ratios, or changing out functional parts like turbos, etc.

 

[nikhsub1]

In pure technical terms, the Cobb tune results in slightly more power as seen in the data.

What data?

 

[cbland1979]

so which tune is getting better numbers?

I know it probably isn't as accurate as a dyno, but the Cobb does give you the option to display HP on the Accessport. With the Stage 1 tune and Cobb intake with 93 octane, I've gotten up to 512 HP displayed on the Accessport under load on the highway. And before you ask, I failed to perform this with the stock tune and 87 octane because I didn't find the feature until after tune was applied and tank was full of 93 so I'm not sure what the "baseline" was. I need to do that but have to empty the tank.

I would be curious to see what other's are reading on their Cobb Accessports.

 

[TwizzleStix]

What data?

The ECU-recorded data.

 

[NASSTY]

Just wait it out a bit and get the best of both worlds...MPT tunes on the Cobb Accessport. It's already available for 2017-18's.

 

[Marv]

Has anybody used the JB4 tune?