2017 Engine Replacement

[brianh87]

Apparently you don't understand English. Go do your homework and you will see how bad the GEN. 2'S are depreciating currently. Hold their value better than 90 percent of all vehicles ? really, are you kidding me. Go read KBB, CONSUMER REPORTS, OR CARS.COM and you will see which vehicles are top ten in least depreciation.

Dude, post a depreciation thread. None of this is helping the poor guy without his truck.

 

[ME120]

Dude, post a depreciation thread. None of this is helping the poor guy without his truck.

I agree with you 100 percent. Just go look up vehicles with the least depreciation. And my point on his engine is why should he swallow the major inconvenience of being without his raptor and the obvious loss of value due to a engine replacement when he paid $ 70,000.00 new. Ford should give him a lifetime warranty and pay him for loss of use.

 

[zombiekiller]

Apparently you don't understand English. Go do your homework and you will see how bad the GEN. 2'S are depreciating currently. Hold their value better than 90 percent of all vehicles ? really, are you kidding me. Go read KBB, CONSUMER REPORTS, OR CARS.COM and you will see which vehicles are top ten in least depreciation.

if anyone on this board bought a raptor based on its depreciation quotient, I'd be shocked.

If thats what youre after, go buy a tacoma or a 4runner. ( i've owned both and they are both incredibly boring.)

One of the best things that my old man ever taught me was, " all cars are a depreciating asset. If cars are your hobby, you're never going to get your money back out of whatever you buy and tinker with. Make sure the fun that you have with your hobby is worth the money that you'll never see again."

I've made money on 6 vehicles out of the 60+ that I've owned.

arguing about the depreciation percentile is the fastest way to have all the serious enthusiasts click the ignore button.

raptor ROI is in smiles per gallon. ( or per dollar) any other metering stick is a fool's errand.

 

[FordTechOne]

Very sorry to hear about your raptor. I live not to far from you. 2017 and 22,000 miles and you have a engine failure occur. This is unacceptable, especially when you consider that new the truck was probably $ 65,000 to $ 69,000 if it is a loaded Screw. If you drove the truck in 2017, 2018, and 2019 that's 2.5 to 3 years and a average of 8800 miles per year, and the engine blows up. Completely unacceptable . If I where you I would make Ford buy the vehicle back, especially if you own the truck outright. This is a coensedance considering I just did a thread on raptor depreciation that touched on build quality. Unfortunately the thread got shut down because the moderators raptor ego got hurt. Some people can not handle the truth.

A engine failure at 22,000 miles is almost unbelievable on a vehicle being driven 8800 miles per year that costs north of $ 60,000.00. Get Ford to buy the truck back, and take a look at a tundra ( 1 million miles), Toyota LC ( BUILD LIFE 25 YEARS), Tacoma, forerunner, or even a LX 570 or GX 460. By the way I am not a raptor hater, I currently own a loaded 2019 with 16,000 miles and I actually love the truck and have no issues as of yet. But Fords over producing of the raptor and being more concerned with pushing out high volume leads to build quality issues, along with tanking depreciation.

Sorry to hear about the engine failure. Good Luck. Kind of sad you bought their most expensive truck and they **** you around about a loaner. It may take a good lawyer, but I would make them buy it back. Your resale will be terrible !

You seem to have a lot to say without any data to back a single word of it up. In fact, you seem more like a Toyota troll than a contributor to this forum.

First off, you can't "make" any manufacturer "buy a vehicle back". The warranty exists for a reason; if a defect occurs within the warranty period, the manufacturer is responsible for the cost and the dealer is responsible for completing the repair properly and within a reasonable time frame. You act as if a warranty is not necessary because at the slightest sign of any issue a consumer should be entitled to a brand new vehicle.

Whether you spend $15K on a vehicle or $500K on a vehicle nobody wants to have an engine replacement. What you don't seem to comprehend is that anything can happen with a mechanical device regardless of how much it costs. It's not unique to a Raptor or to a Ford.

Sounds like your also jealous of resale value...F-Series is far above anything Toyota makes, especially the Tundra. What kind of resale value can you have when the manufacturer (Toyota!) loses a class action lawsuit for at a cost of over $3.4 BILLION for frames rotting in half? You need to get off of your high horse and stop with the lecturing.

https://autoweek.com/article/recalls/toyota-will-settle-truck-frame-rust-suit-suit-34-billion

You're telling people to "take a look" at a Tundra that can't even make it out of warranty without the frame rotting out and oil pouring from the cam towers, which requires the entire top end of the engine to be disassembled at a cost of $6000 to the consumer? There is no doubt at this point that you are a troll, nobody comes on a Ford Performance forum and recommends that somebody switch to an overpriced, under performing rust bucket Toyota because of a one-off issue.

As far as the "1 Million Mile" Tundra, that is a joke. That particular "truck" was driven non-stop for interstate deliveries on the highway; it lead a relatively easy life yet it still had thousands of dollars in repairs and the transmission went out well before that milestone. There are more Ford F-Series with high mileage than Toyota has ever built Tundras. Take your propaganda somewhere else.

BTW...show me ONE piece of evidence that Ford is "over producing" the Raptor. No evidence exists, because you completely made that up. Go troll your own Tundra forum and worry about your rotted out frames instead of a one-off F-150.

 

[FordTechOne]

Buy Back. You can not put a price tag on the time you have been without it and your car fax history will be terrible when you go to trade it or sell it. If Ford absolutely refuses even with a lawyer, then make them give you a lifetime warranty on the truck and pro rate the cost of the truck and apply it to the time you have been without it and demand a check from ford for lost usability.

Toyota TROLL alert.

Read the warranty supplement that comes with every new vehicle. Yes, that includes TOYOTA. The manufacturer is responsible to repair the vehicle based on the warranty coverage. So even if the engine or transmission fails, they will replace it. That does not entitle you to a buy back or a new vehicle regardless of manufacturer.

I'll give you some advice...go back to your Toyota forum. There is no "lifetime warranty" and there is no "pro rating" of the vehicle for usability. Reference your own Tundra forum for validation. You are here to stir the pot and cause issues, and that is not helpful to anyone on this or any other forum.

 

[ME120]

You seem to have a lot to say without any data to back a single word of it up. In fact, you seem more like a Toyota troll than a contributor to this forum.

First off, you can't "make" any manufacturer "buy a vehicle back". The warranty exists for a reason; if a defect occurs within the warranty period, the manufacturer is responsible for the cost and the dealer is responsible for completing the repair properly and within a reasonable time frame. You act as if a warranty is not necessary because at the slightest sign of any issue a consumer should be entitled to a brand new vehicle.

Whether you spend $15K on a vehicle or $500K on a vehicle nobody wants to have an engine replacement. What you don't seem to comprehend is that anything can happen with a mechanical device regardless of how much it costs. It's not unique to a Raptor or to a Ford.

Sounds like your also jealous of resale value...F-Series is far above anything Toyota makes, especially the Tundra. What kind of resale value can you have when the manufacturer (Toyota!) loses a class action lawsuit for at a cost of over $3.4 BILLION for frames rotting in half? You need to get off of your high horse and stop with the lecturing.

https://autoweek.com/article/recalls/toyota-will-settle-truck-frame-rust-suit-suit-34-billion

You're telling people to "take a look" at a Tundra that can't even make it out of warranty without the frame rotting out and oil pouring from the cam towers, which requires the entire top end of the engine to be disassembled at a cost of $6000 to the consumer? There is no doubt at this point that you are a troll, nobody comes on a Ford Performance forum and recommends that somebody switch to an overpriced, under performing rust bucket Toyota because of a one-off issue.

As far as the "1 Million Mile" Tundra, that is a joke. That particular "truck" was driven non-stop for interstate deliveries on the highway; it lead a relatively easy life yet it still had thousands of dollars in repairs and the transmission went out well before that milestone. There are more Ford F-Series with high mileage than Toyota has ever built Tundras. Take your propaganda somewhere else.

Detroit, what a great city. yeah right. If you would like to really compare the Toyota land cruiser to the raptor as far as build quality you are fighting a losing battle. Actually it's a joke. Would you like to talk about recalls and engine failures of the raptor vs the land cruiser. Again another fight you will lose. The raptor is a great truck, but if you want to try to compare it to any of the toyota top line vehicles when it comes to build quality , its a joke. Kind of like comparing the New England Patriots to the Detroit lions.

But, what should we expect coming from Detroit.

 

[ME120]

Toyota TROLL alert.

Read the warranty supplement that comes with every new vehicle. Yes, that includes TOYOTA. The manufacturer is responsible to repair the vehicle based on the warranty coverage. So even if the engine or transmission fails, they will replace it. That does not entitle you to a buy back or a new vehicle regardless of manufacturer.

I'll give you some advice...go back to your Toyota forum. There is no "lifetime warranty" and there is no "pro rating" of the vehicle for usability. Reference your own Tundra forum for validation. You are here to stir the pot and cause issues, and that is not helpful to anyone on this or any other forum.

Toyota does not have to worry about engine failures. Something ford KNOWS a lot about. By the way what vehicle comes with a 25 year build life = Toyota Land Cruiser. LX 570.

 

[FordTechOne]

I agree with you 100 percent. Just go look up vehicles with the least depreciation. And my point on his engine is why should he swallow the major inconvenience of being without his raptor and the obvious loss of value due to a engine replacement when he paid $ 70,000.00 new. Ford should give him a lifetime warranty and pay him for loss of use.

Better trade in "your" Raptor, look at this frame integrity!

 

[zombiekiller]

Detroit, what a great city. yeah right. If you would like to really compare the Toyota land cruiser to the raptor as far as build quality you are fighting a losing battle. Actually it's a joke. Would you like to talk about recalls and engine failures of the raptor vs the land cruiser. Again another fight you will lose. The raptor is a great truck, but if you want to try to compare it to any of the toyota top line vehicles when it comes to build quality , its a joke. Kind of like comparing the New England Patriots to the Detroit lions.

But, what should we expect coming from Detroit.

wow. just f**king wow. I am really glad that there is an ignore feature on this forum.

If a raptor had a price tag of 89K, like the landcruiser, I am 150% certain that the build quality would be commensurate with the price, just like the land cruiser. Take a look at the navigator if you dont believe me. It puts a land cruiser's interior to shame.

And yes, I've owned plenty of them. 40, 45, iron pig, 60, 62, fzj80 and a 90.



and seriously dude. wow are you a special individual.

 

[FordTechOne]

Toyota does not have to worry about engine failures. Something ford KNOWS a lot about. By the way what vehicle comes with a 25 year build life = Toyota Land Cruiser. LX 570.

Show me one ounce of proof of your claimed "25 year" build life when they can't even keep Tundras on the road without their frames rotting in half in 5 years. Keep trolling son.