$109,145 Starting Price

[melvimbe]

There was a lot of stupid money being spent last year and a lot of auto loans being approved based on the stupid money. This is a big reason the default rates are going up. Another reason for the high demand was the increase in prices for used cars and people trading in and upgrading based on the equity they were finding in their autos.

There were some people doing trades based on the uniqueness of the used market values, but overall, I think people spending stupid money did so because they had stupid money. A lot of folks were in the market because they needed a vehicle or because it was just the right time for them for personal finances, despite overall market.

With the bubble starting to burst in the used car market and the rising default rates with all the government handouts ending (rent assistance, cash assistance etc.,) I believe the demand for these types of autos (raptor) is starting to dry up. And I haven't even gotten to the increasing interest rates.

I don't think many people in the Raptor market are relying on government handouts. Could be wrong. As far as interest rates, they are still way below inflation, so unless you have a good investment in mind, you're better off buying now then letting your money sit under a mattress.

There might be some introductory high ADM's, but I am sure they will be either gone completely or at least cut in half by the time these trucks are actually manufactured. Just my opinion. I could be wrong though.

We don't know what ADMs are now, since there are no sales, so you can't really say they will be cut in half by the time they start selling. It's all just guesses at this point. But I do think Ford is going to be careful at keeping supply somewhat limited. They don't want to flood the market and then hurt sales of the reg Raptor. The thing that really have to worry about is make sure people believe the R is that much better than TRX or reg Rap.

 

[Todd Turbo S]

Unless I missed this somewhere, Is anyone else disappointed Ford did not upgrade the brake calipers to something more substantial, maybe Brembos six piston?

 

[wac45]

Did I miss it ? is it full time awd or switchable to 2wd?

What I saw it has 2wd capability.

 

[Donovan]

I'm going to save $30k and just buy the stickers

You mean 60...

Get lightly used Gen2 with high mileage, rip engine out - $40k?
PREDATOR engine, ECU, labor, praying - $30k?
Upgrade suspension - $5-8k?

 

[asg0524]

And I was just thinking about ordering mine with the decal delete.

Actually, I just wanted to get tracking this discussion. I can't find a dealership that knows anything about ordering a Raptor R. Not one out of the 12 I called would take money down or a pre-order. So I'm just stalking the internet and waiting for someone to say they figured out how to buy one.

I agree, I am getting zero answers on how to order. A few say that have one allocation and it’s already gone, even though I had been there last week and they knew nothing about it. SMH the process feels corrupt to me.

 

[Donovan]

The Predator engine is $27k. The control pack is "unavailable".

Ford Predator V8 crate motor gets price increase to $27,295

Ford's Predator V8 crate motor gets a price increase, though the control pack still isn't available.

www.autoblog.com

There she goes...

 

[asg0524]

Does anyone have a confirmed order sheet?

 

[Donovan]

What parts of the R are beefier?

With 700HP, I imagine the following: brakes/linkages/diffs; Especially when this thing is tuned to 700wheel.

 

[melvimbe]

What parts of the R are beefier?

With 700HP, I imagine the following: brakes/linkages/diffs; Especially when this thing is tuned to 700wheel.

Beefier than what? Gen 2? Gen 3? Gen 3 on 37s?

2023 Ford F-150 Raptor R Uses the Shelby GT500's V8 to Make 700 Horsepower

Fox shocks and 37-inch tires should give this supertruck plenty of capability.

www.cnet.com

Ford could've just slapped a V8 under the hood and called it a day, but the Raptor R needs to have the durability to have the absolute snot beat out of it. A larger oil pan will let the truck handle grades without worrying about oil starvation, while a larger intake and new oil cooler should help keep gases and liquids from getting too hot. The Raptor R also picks up a new front axle, a larger aluminum driveshaft, as well as an active exhaust system with pass-through mufflers and valving that changes the exhaust note based on vehicle mode.

Since the Raptor is all about blasting through the desert as fast as possible, the Raptor R's suspension looks up to that task. Fox Live Valve shocks are hiding behind those beefcake body panels, and combined with some massive coil springs, the Raptor R offers 13 inches of wheel travel in the front and 14.1 inches in the rear. Standard ground clearance is an impressive 13.1 inches, and its standard 37-inch all-terrain tires should provide plenty of grip when the asphalt disappears.

 

[R3G]

Pretty sure the R is priced at $109K because:
1. People are paying stupid high prices on regular raptors and similar trucks anyway
2. Ford plans to significantly limit production and the price tag should help keep demand under control.
3. Because they can. However I’m still not sure how they landed at the R. Seems more of an option package to the existing Gen3 lineup and those graphics tho, so garbo, their design team needs to huddle on that decision