GEN 2 Who's got a leadfoot?

[NickyF25]

Same! I thought I was getting a good deal at 69k with 74k sticker....

Never managed to find a LF with the recaro seats in the US and I was trolling autotrader and cars.com for months. Test drove one in Canada and they seemed more common up there.

That seems like a good deal at invoice basically. I’m waiting to see the link to the dealer(s) doing $10k below MSRP on 20s, if true they won’t last long. My understanding is that around $7k below MSRP is invoice and all the holdback.

 

[David1986]

That is a good deal at invoice basically. I’m waiting to see the link to the dealer(s) doing $10k below MSRP on 20s, if true they won’t last long. My understanding is that around $7k below MSRP is invoice and all the holdback.

You are correct! I don't know of any dealers willing to lose money on one, unless they are adding a bunch of fees after the discount price.

 

[David1986]

What is "holdback"? I'm guessing the final number on the big invoice plus whatever dealer add ons, on that little vertical invoice is in fact the dealer's invoice? Or am I mistaken?

It's generally around 3% of the MSRP that the manufacturer gives the dealer to sell the truck. If my dealer will do invoice minus holdback (on a Raptor) they are not making a profit unless they are charging doc fees, since there are no rebates on Raptors. Ford might provide them with internal incentives to move inventory, however Raptors are not normally included. That could change in the future.

If a dealer has added an ADM or a bunch of add ons, then offering $10K off I would understand that.

 

[Nick@Apollo-Optics]

Looking for the hammer to drop here so can get a screaming' deal on a 20'. Have seen 20's with an invoice of $75k marked down to $65k so far. When it hits $58-60 I'll jump.

Now that would be a smoking deal.

That would be off of the invoice on the window. BTW, I have never seen a Leadfoot with the blue trim. Is that for the Recaro package?

Yes, Recaro package gives you the blue trim and carbon fiber interior.

So the set up on the truck by the railroad requires no nothing to make it work?

Not that exact setup, but close! The railroad shot has 325/60R20 tires on it. If you run a 35x12.50R20 tire, you will be able to fit on a 2019 or 2020 with no suspension changes.

Thanks for the option Nick! What are the offset on those wheels? I was debating on 35 vs 37 but this looks like the perfect compromise.

I think so, too! The wheels are. 20x9 +12 offset. AND as of yesterday, they just got marked down to $1199 shipped with free lugs for a set of 4. You're saving $550!

https://www.apollo-optics.com/collections/set-of-4-venomrex-wheels-20

 

[Venerous]

@911 Crazy
@Justin Mundy

I don't know what time frame you're looking at but if it can wait a bit, I'll have pictures of mine up in a few weeks (they're not on yet). 35x12.5R20 BFG KO2 on VenomRex 602 Carbon Graphite, they're going in tomorrow to get CP while my Raptor gets a full XPel Stealth job. @Nick@Apollo-Optics knows his stuff and really takes care of his customers, can't recommend him highly enough. And at 31% off, it's a hell of a deal for a lightweight, high durability, sick looking wheel. Got mine at 25% off about a month ago from Nick. So, just my two pennies but, I'd say pull the trigger - or wait a few weeks for further visual proof.

 

[911 Crazy]

Now that would be a smoking deal.



Yes, Recaro package gives you the blue trim and carbon fiber interior.



Not that exact setup, but close! The railroad shot has 325/60R20 tires on it. If you run a 35x12.50R20 tire, you will be able to fit on a 2019 or 2020 with no suspension changes.



I think so, too! The wheels are. 20x9 +12 offset. AND as of yesterday, they just got marked down to $1199 shipped with free lugs for a set of 4. You're saving $550!

So how much smaller are the ones you're recommending over what's on your truck? What I'd like to do is keep the original bead locks for off-roading trips and have the 20's for mall parades and not need different suspension set ups.

 

[911 Crazy]

@911 Crazy
@Justin Mundy

I don't know what time frame you're looking at but if it can wait a bit, I'll have pictures of mine up in a few weeks (they're not on yet). 35x12.5R20 BFG KO2 on VenomRex 602 Carbon Graphite, they're going in tomorrow to get CP while my Raptor gets a full XPel Stealth job. @Nick@Apollo-Optics knows his stuff and really takes care of his customers, can't recommend him highly enough. And at 31% off, it's a hell of a deal for a lightweight, high durability, sick looking wheel. Got mine at 25% off about a month ago from Nick. So, just my two pennies but, I'd say pull the trigger - or wait a few weeks for further visual proof.

Looking forward to the pics. Who is doing your wrap? You doing the entire truck?

 

[911 Crazy]

Now that would be a smoking deal.



Yes, Recaro package gives you the blue trim and carbon fiber interior.



Not that exact setup, but close! The railroad shot has 325/60R20 tires on it. If you run a 35x12.50R20 tire, you will be able to fit on a 2019 or 2020 with no suspension changes.



I think so, too! The wheels are. 20x9 +12 offset. AND as of yesterday, they just got marked down to $1199 shipped with free lugs for a set of 4. You're saving $550!

https://www.apollo-optics.com/collections/set-of-4-venomrex-wheels-20

Hey Nick,

Just found an Instagram page with Venom/Raptor pics. One had 37/12.5/20's. How much suspension work needed for that set up?

 

[Venerous]

Looking forward to the pics. Who is doing your wrap? You doing the entire truck?

Thanks. Will be taking some pictures after each mod (or group). Affirmative, entire truck - Xpel Stealth. Shop called Ceramic Garage doin' the install.

 

[911 Crazy]

Thanks. Will be taking some at after each mod (or group). Affirmative, entire truck - Xpel Stealth. Shop called Ceramic Garage doin' the install.

Sounds good . Be interested in the price. Was quoted $7k for entire truck from a guy in SoCal.