who hates the stocks raptor suspensions

[Macman]

They all seem like professional companies that make awesome products, so as mentioned above contact each and talk to them personally. Especially if you are dropping that much money from overseas.

 

[BlueSVT]

I will say though, I'm partial to the guys over at RPG and this long travel kit that's getting 18-19" of travel with no added width that they're talking about sounds pretty sick.

You mean the CAD drawing that's getting 19" of travel, with no CV's or axles illustrated yet? There's so much testing and real world PROVING that needs to take place before this is even a remotely viable option.

 

[Raptizzle]

^ Did one of the guys at RPG run over your dog or sleep with your gf in high school??? I mean shit, you've been the ultimate critic with these guys when all they're doing is expanding the potential for our trucks. We need guys like them and their advanced engineering approach to better the aftermarket for all of us.

 

[BlueSVT]

No, I just think that claims shouldn't be made until the product is physically made and proven to actually work! To give advice based on "theoretical" parts is just not good advice.

My skepticism is based on engineering history...

 

[ktm505sx]

I m thinking to buy a new truck through them, sure they know some ford dealer close from their workshop. Probably a a new 2012 Scab svt raptor reg config will be around 45k $ , i m thinking to spend on the truck 10k $ on suspension upgrade.
By the time i will be installing a magnaflow full exhaust system afe stage II and xcal 3 tunned by jdm

 

[bstoner59]

BlueSTI, I think you need to reread Aarons post. He simply said he was partial to RPG. KInd of like you are partial to Outlaw. He never said anything about buying the long travel kit. He said it looks nice. Relax there. Outlaw's products and build quality speak for themselves. I don't think you help the case much. Just my opinion...

 

[RPG]

No, I just think that claims shouldn't be made until the product is physically made and proven to actually work! To give advice based on "theoretical" parts is just not good advice.

I would agree with you 100% if the design was based out of thin air. However when you have the actual files that Ford uses to design the system based on the OE files, the measurements are exact. You can design everything you need before the first part is cut and measure it down to the millimeter. Shocks, coilovers, a-rms, half shafts, tie-rods, knuckle all the way down to the amount of camber, caster, steering lock ect, including the exact amount of wheel travel the design will be allowed to have. You can cycle the travel in every way as if the truck was right in front of you with full steering lock, how much bump steer, where to mount bracketry all the way down to the exact point the 39" BFG Project will hit. Every clearance issue is resolved before the truck ever has one part removed. The claim of 19" isn't the targeted number, it's the by product of the actual design and is the number.

Think of it this way. When Ford designed the Raptor they knew exactly the amount of travel the truck would have before the very first part was mounted on the truck. Why? Because it was designed that way. This is the advantage to designing everything based off of the actual Ford CAD files as oppose to paper templates as in years past, or companies that don't have the resources to have an actual engineer designing their products. They know exact shock lengths that need to be used both externally and internally. They know the exact CV angle at every given point of the cycle plus everything else you could ever need to know.

I appreciate your concern and can assure you and everyone else that our long travel kit will never make it to market until it proves itself to be reliable, incredibly fast and the leader of the class just like everything else RPG produces. We are very fortunate that Chris is willing to let us use him as our test subject.

If you are skeptic about this setup or basically everything else RPG, our offer still stands for you to come to the shop and see just how the magic happens.

 

[BlueSVT]

I will do that... I hold no grudges, and of course I'm biased to Outlaw as I work along side them with the Expeditions!

Sorry if I came across like an A-Hole!

 

[The Car Stereo Company]

here is the solution

buy 3 raptors
take one to each company
when done, take all 3 to TRR
drive the shit out of each and see which one lasts longest
go buy another raptor
take to company that lasted longest
problem solved

 

[Turf Tamer]

No, I just think that claims shouldn't be made until the product is physically made and proven to actually work! To give advice based on "theoretical" parts is just not good advice.

I would agree with you 100% if the design was based out of thin air. However when you have the actual files that Ford uses to design the system based on the OE files, the measurements are exact. You can design everything you need before the first part is cut and measure it down to the millimeter. Shocks, coilovers, a-rms, half shafts, tie-rods, knuckle all the way down to the amount of camber, caster, steering lock ect, including the exact amount of wheel travel the design will be allowed to have. You can cycle the travel in every way as if the truck was right in front of you with full steering lock, how much bump steer, where to mount bracketry all the way down to the exact point the 39" BFG Project will hit. Every clearance issue is resolved before the truck ever has one part removed. The claim of 19" isn't the targeted number, it's the by product of the actual design and is the number.

Think of it this way. When Ford designed the Raptor they knew exactly the amount of travel the truck would have before the very first part was mounted on the truck. Why? Because it was designed that way. This is the advantage to designing everything based off of the actual Ford CAD files as oppose to paper templates as in years past, or companies that don't have the resources to have an actual engineer designing their products. They know exact shock lengths that need to be used both externally and internally. They know the exact CV angle at every given point of the cycle plus everything else you could ever need to know.

I appreciate your concern and can assure you and everyone else that our long travel kit will never make it to market until it proves itself to be reliable, incredibly fast and the leader of the class just like everything else RPG produces. We are very fortunate that Chris is willing to let us use him as our test subject.

If you are skeptic about this setup or basically everything else RPG, our offer still stands for you to come to the shop and see just how the magic happens.

Got to see all of this first hand last Monday. Pretty neat stuff.