Who else financed their Raptor?

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Finances should be like talking politics and religion. No one cares and every one has an option and everyone thinks they are right.

if your happy with your truck and you are ok with the payments. Who cares of you financed or paid cash. No amount of money has ever bought 1 second of time. Enjoy it and don’t sweet the little things.

This^^. Everyone has their reasons for their choice (cash/finance). For me it, it was financing, as I believed I could do better than my loan rate (high 2% range) in the market. I could certainly pull out the remaining balance from savings (or have paid cash at purchase), but having an emergency fund/cash cushion is critically important (to me). House is paid off, 401K's fully funded every year, and plenty of fun money at the end of the month, so I'm not making any sacrifices to meet the loan pmt, and in fact am paying a bit extra every month just to shave a few $$ off the total interest. Why not just take that extra payment and invest that as well? No one has a crystal ball to see the future. Extra payments are guaranteed interest saved over the life of the loan. The balance of both approaches is what lets me sleep at night.

You do what makes you happy.
 

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Not that it matters to anyone, but I really like single family residential rentals. Economy good? People rent. Economy bad? People even more likely to rent. I'll take some of that truck cash and buy a fixer-upper at a reduced price that I can turn around and rent. Went through a very rough patch personally about 4 years ago and rental property really carried me and saved my ass, despite some real nail biting with unexpected (and expensive) repairs at the time. My cash on cash return has been in the 20-30% range. I don't understand stocks or the S&P and I know some very wealthy people who don't either. At least with property I feel like I can control my situation at least somewhat. With stocks and such, I'm kind of along for the ride.

I sell commercial real estate for a living and my income can vary wildly. Rental income is the only constant, somewhat predictable income I have. You really have to be a saver at times! :eek:

Cannot argue with the returns from the S&P, but I'm a dummy and I just don't understand it.
 
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Interesting discussion. I have been shopping for a raptor for some time and i like to get a "deal" on anything I buy so I am talked to a dealer with some new 19s' in inventory about $6k off the sticker.

My situation is I have a 15' V8 Lariat with 48k miles and owe about $22k. I bought it used almost 2 years ago.

My company gives me $500/month for a vehicle allowance and pays work fuel which is everything basically.

The dealer has a pretty loaded 19' at $67.5 and will give me $29k for my truck. Id put another $5k-$10k down and finance the rest. USAA can give me around 3% at 72 or 84 months.

My truck is fine, I leveled it with bill steins and put 33"s on it. But its not a raptor LOL.

I try talking myself out of a Raptor but I just love the way they look so much.

Im a cheapass too btw.
 

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Interesting discussion. I have been shopping for a raptor for some time and i like to get a "deal" on anything I buy so I am talked to a dealer with some new 19s' in inventory about $6k off the sticker.

My situation is I have a 15' V8 Lariat with 48k miles and owe about $22k. I bought it used almost 2 years ago.

My company gives me $500/month for a vehicle allowance and pays work fuel which is everything basically.

The dealer has a pretty loaded 19' at $67.5 and will give me $29k for my truck. Id put another $5k-$10k down and finance the rest. USAA can give me around 3% at 72 or 84 months.

My truck is fine, I leveled it with bill steins and put 33"s on it. But its not a raptor LOL.

I try talking myself out of a Raptor but I just love the way they look so much.

Im a cheapass too btw.
My dad once told me he quit smoking by challenging himself every time he wanted a smoke, to see how tough he was by not having one. The longer he held out the tougher he felt. He is a tough sumbitch. How tough are you?

Get the Raptor. Life is too short, unless you are putting yourself into some kind of hardship.
 

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My dad once told me he quit smoking by challenging himself every time he wanted a smoke, to see how tough he was by not having one. The longer he held out the tougher he felt. He is a tough sumbitch. How tough are you?

Get the Raptor. Life is too short, unless you are putting yourself into some kind of hardship.

Yeah I hear ya LOL! Its not so much the money, like i said company pays me $500/mo anyway and my fuel. Id be adding about $250sh out of my own pocket/mo. I do pretty well in my role too. Its mostly I am a bit lazy about pulling the trigger and limited on time. I have 2 young kids so locking up an afternoon at a dealer is a PIA!. Also this particular dealer is out of state so its all done by email....which I want them to move a tad more on LOL. I also am a bit weary about buying without seeing it.

If only you could get 0% for 72 on a raptor!
 

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The question I would ask myself is: if the "the company" were no longer willing to give you $500/mo, or "the company" let you go, or something else happens, then would it be a hardship? If yes, then no. Happened to my GF's brother and he really struggled to make his truck payments, especially after he had a newborn. He bought a new Ram based around his truck allowance.
 

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There is no way to spin this. Not a lesser depreciation rate from other vehicles,
or a low finance rate. The money your company gives you for a vehicle could be going in the bank or stock market. so that isn't a good view either. They don't force you to spend that money on a vehicle use it or lose it style.

NO FORD RAPTOR is a a good investment. There are just ways you are going to lose
less money than perhaps someone else.

"if you think the market is going to tank" Unless you are the ******* oracle of omaha, you don't know shit and neither does anyone else about what the market is going to do. Dollar cost averaging people.

It is astonishing how much money the money spent on one of these vehicles could be making in a basic S&P 500 fund, compounded over time.


Best financial advice ever is never buying a new vehicle. Since we all need to get around in style, just go about it a bit smarter.

70+k for a new truck. suck my balls

Having written that. I'm super happy with the 2017 I bought very far from the sticker of 65k.
I paid 47,500 with 29k miles on it in perfect condition, fully loaded out.

Have your affairs in order. Nothing more sad than a person driving a nice car living in a ****** apartment. That right there is a few guys I work with, priorities all ****** up

If you are going to raptor retard then do it, just don't go full retard.
 
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There is no way to spin this. Not a lesser depreciation rate from other vehicles,
or a low finance rate. The money your company gives you for a vehicle could be going in the bank or stock market. so that isn't a good view either. They don't force you to spend that money on a vehicle use it or lose it style.

NO FORD RAPTOR is a a good investment. There are just ways you are going to lose
less money than perhaps someone else.

"if you think the market is going to tank" Unless you are the ******* oracle of omaha, you don't know shit and neither does anyone else about what the market is going to do. Dollar cost averaging people.

It is astonishing how much money the money spent on one of these vehicles could be making in a basic S&P 500 fund, compounded over time.


Best financial advice ever is never buying a new vehicle. Since we all need to get around in style, just go about it a bit smarter.

70+k for a new truck. suck my balls

Having written that. I'm super happy with the 2017 I bought very far from the sticker of 65k.
I paid 47,500 with 29k miles on it in perfect condition, fully loaded out.

Have your affairs in order. Nothing more sad than a person driving a nice car living in a ****** apartment. That right there is a few guys I work with, priorities all ****** up

If you are going to raptor retard then do it, just don't go full retard.


You make some good points- but I highly disagree w/ buying used vs new, especially since trucks hold their value so well. An HD diesel you plan on using to plow or tow? Sure used is a good way to go most of the time. But it really all depends on the deal- if you’re getting very low or NO interest on a new truck, if you haggle on it & timing is right it can be a better deal overall.

Also- once you “rip the bandaid” off & buy new, it’s easier to keep that up going forward as your vehicle will ALWAYS be worth more than if you buy used. Now- I don’t subscribe to this mantra when it comes to real high end luxury cars, exotics, or hobby/sports cars like corvettes & wranglers - there are thousands of pristine examples barely used w/ tasteful mods thrown at em etc.

but just compare scenario- I bought my ‘18 raptor new....b/c I had a ‘15 GMC Sierra - also bought new originally - that got totaled by deer w/ 62k on the clock. The ins co forks over $34k - if I had bought that GMC used it would’ve been a 12-14 model year w/ $85-120k on it & been worth a good bit less as total loss.

My new ‘18 stickered for $66.8k - I got down to $59.5k & that price included a $550 tonneau cover & $1000 credit toward extended warranty so I had to shell out another $630k in total $60,130 I put $15k down cash + the $34k from ins & financed the rest @ like 1.9%

now just paid off title in hand I got a rolling *** of $50k give or take, no payment, & a vehicle that should last me another 4-5 years no problem & is warrantied regardless. Has 21.5k miles on it. That’s the other kick in the nuts buying a slightly used expensive vehicle- you ultimately getting a vehicle that COULD have been beaten to death for the first 25k by an a owner KNOWING they intend to swap it out, minimal to zero maintenance & you get the aftermath. Along w/ seats that have had someone else’s sweaty balls on em, farts, sneezing on dashboard, etc.

I joke- but it’s very analogous in a way since furniture is damn expensive too....who buys used furniture? Couldn’t imagine it right? Used beds/mattresses? Nah no way right?

I GUARANTEE you right now a) my sweaty ass spends more time in my car seat than my couch or possibly even bed (unfortunately) & b) I’ve eaten/drank all kinds of stuff in it, all type of bodily fluids (human or otherwise) have graced the interior, & I simply like the peace of mind knowing exactly what has or hasn’t been done to the vehicle.

I just swapped out the fluid in diffs & TRansfer case @ 20k- I can all but assure you whomever owned your used Raptor did not.

Like I said- to me all comes down to the deal, finance rates, & what you can afford. I also don’t think you should ever be in a loan/car situation you can’t bail on at any time.
 

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There is no way to spin this. Not a lesser depreciation rate from other vehicles,
or a low finance rate. The money your company gives you for a vehicle could be going in the bank or stock market. so that isn't a good view either. They don't force you to spend that money on a vehicle use it or lose it style.

NO FORD RAPTOR is a a good investment. There are just ways you are going to lose
less money than perhaps someone else.

"if you think the market is going to tank" Unless you are the ******* oracle of omaha, you don't know shit and neither does anyone else about what the market is going to do. Dollar cost averaging people.

It is astonishing how much money the money spent on one of these vehicles could be making in a basic S&P 500 fund, compounded over time.


Best financial advice ever is never buying a new vehicle. Since we all need to get around in style, just go about it a bit smarter.

70+k for a new truck. suck my balls

Having written that. I'm super happy with the 2017 I bought very far from the sticker of 65k.
I paid 47,500 with 29k miles on it in perfect condition, fully loaded out.

Have your affairs in order. Nothing more sad than a person driving a nice car living in a ****** apartment. That right there is a few guys I work with, priorities all ****** up

If you are going to raptor retard then do it, just don't go full retard.


Very good points and what i go back and forth with every day. Im invested in the S&P and have done very well the last few years. I have cash on hand and more to buy the truck out right, but you can make more off having a note and putting the rest in funds.

Now I have a 15' Lariat I bought with 22k miles on it. Sticker was like $58k, I paid $38k. Thats a huge drop off a new vehicle that was basically 2.5 years old. Now today its worth about $30k. I spend a lot of time in a vehicle but I also park it at DIA a lot so that sucks but I see all kinds of rides in the lot there.

I got promoted last year and a huge bump in pay this year so financially its not a huge hit.....I just like to hoard money, but drool over the raptor. IDK....Waiting for the right deal I guess.
 

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There is no way to spin this. Not a lesser depreciation rate from other vehicles,
or a low finance rate. The money your company gives you for a vehicle could be going in the bank or stock market. so that isn't a good view either. They don't force you to spend that money on a vehicle use it or lose it style.

NO FORD RAPTOR is a a good investment. There are just ways you are going to lose
less money than perhaps someone else.

"if you think the market is going to tank" Unless you are the ******* oracle of omaha, you don't know shit and neither does anyone else about what the market is going to do. Dollar cost averaging people.

It is astonishing how much money the money spent on one of these vehicles could be making in a basic S&P 500 fund, compounded over time.


Best financial advice ever is never buying a new vehicle. Since we all need to get around in style, just go about it a bit smarter.

70+k for a new truck. suck my balls

Having written that. I'm super happy with the 2017 I bought very far from the sticker of 65k.
I paid 47,500 with 29k miles on it in perfect condition, fully loaded out.

Have your affairs in order. Nothing more sad than a person driving a nice car living in a ****** apartment. That right there is a few guys I work with, priorities all ****** up

If you are going to raptor retard then do it, just don't go full retard.

I'd argue a nice apartment is a worse investment than a new car, especially if you're a car guy. Don't spend most of your income on a car and housing, be choosy with your priorities.

Also, I need a car newer than 5 years old to qualify for the car allowance at work. They don't just hand you a tax free $500/month stipend for driving an 02 accord.
 
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