Where is the Engine?

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Most of the engine is behind the front axle (i'd say roughly 30/70, 70% being behind the center line on the differential output snub shafts. The 30% would be on top and forward of snub shaft center line). Just looking with the naked eye..
 
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Great info. Thanks dudes. The more cars I'm blessed to drive and own....the more I find overall balance makes a quality vehicle. Hints, one reason I was skeptic on the blue Interior....however "unique" items like the blue int are also bonus's on a rare automobile.

Anyway, it seems the average intel shows the engine to be basically dead center or better aka behind the front axle. This helps A TON if you are cornering at high speeds. The further back the engine, the less chance the front end will slide away from your control. I'd say the only thing the front end is missing from the factory is a 3 inch diameter tower bar.

This issue is one I didnt research more when buying my '07 RS4 Audi back in '06. Side note, 2007 RS4 Audi is known as having top 5 best engines ever made, Lambo brakes factory, and the top 5 best handing cars ever made at that time.

However, the one thing that made the Audi fail on most levels from being one of the greatest supercar sedans of all time....the engine being FORWARD the front axle. This was dangerous bc in a car like that you trust it enough to push it into corners. However, once the front end breaks free, even with AWD, there is no hope...you r done.

For all of us who are trusting our Raptors with our lives and the lives of loved ones in remote places....this is good info to know on the engine placement. Plus, its a great selling point and further proves the actual thought that went into the Raptor. Loaded Scabs, imo, should sell for more like 65K the way these things are built and add 5K more for a screw. We r lucky!

Remember, Raptor went Retail when the car market went bust. Ford was the only one that DIDNT take a govt bail out. They needed to sell and sell fast. They built the best truck for penny's on the dollar bc all suppliers were burtin back then. Give it two more years and the Raptor will be a 60K retail vehicle. I thought it wuld be once it got the front diff...but again we lucked out.

The Scab felt very balanced when I drove it (with two other adults present) at a dealership back in '10 + it was a 6.2L. The Scab, to me, is about as good as it gets for the money if you are done racing straight lines and/or corner tracks (your hometown streets) and looking to have it all but enjoyable up to a comfortable limit. My last two cars went 200+Mph....so i need something I feel safe in yet can still get a jolt when I need it! :peace:
 

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Plus, its a great selling point and further proves the actual thought that went into the Raptor. Loaded Scabs, imo, should sell for more like 65K the way these things are built and add 5K more for a screw. We r lucky!

Ford didn't move the engine placement for the Raptor. It was where it was from the f-150 platform. That wasn't any additional thought into it for the Raptor.

And if these trucks were $65k for a scab and $70k for a screw, they wouldn't be selling nearly as many of them and their reputation wouldn't be nearly as good because adding 50% price hike just for being a speciality vehicle isn't a valid reason, and rather than having a reputation for being a good value for your money for what you're getting from the truck, they'd be known for being those overpriced trucks that Ford charges a ridiculous 50% fee on ripping customers off.

Are the trucks good value for their money? Yes. Are they worth $20-25k more just as they sit? F*** no!
 

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Quick question, where is the engine placed on the 2012 Raptor Scab: is it in front of the front axle, directly above the front axle, or behind the front axle? I am hoping to hear it is behind the front axle for best handling performance.

Thanks

PS-I meant to post this thread on the general forum section...whoops! Sorry. Hoping I can still get the answer though...

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Ford didn't move the engine placement for the Raptor. It was where it was from the f-150 platform. That wasn't any additional thought into it for the Raptor.

And if these trucks were $65k for a scab and $70k for a screw, they wouldn't be selling nearly as many of them and their reputation wouldn't be nearly as good because adding 50% price hike just for being a speciality vehicle isn't a valid reason, and rather than having a reputation for being a good value for your money for what you're getting from the truck, they'd be known for being those overpriced trucks that Ford charges a ridiculous 50% fee on ripping customers off.

Are the trucks good value for their money? Yes. Are they worth $20-25k more just as they sit? F*** no!

I agree. Just saying, it's a rare gem for the price. And some work went into balancing the 6.2 in the Raptor since the only F-150 with a 6.2 at least in 2010...was/is a Raptor.

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Thanks. It looks about 60/40 (60 behind/40 front) give or take 5. Awesome for such a large engine.
 

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With a few more features and some higher quality materials, I'd say the Raptor is easily worth $70k to me.
 

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I agree. Just saying, it's a rare gem for the price. And some work went into balancing the 6.2 in the Raptor since the only F-150 with a 6.2 at least in 2010...was/is a Raptor.


actually, not as much may have been done as you may think. The 6.2 was designed to use the same motor mounts and same trans and trans mounts as the 5.4, so it was more of "it is what it is" as far as exactly where it landed.
 

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The 6.2 Raptor did get unique/svt engine mounts for improved strength. One area Ford/svt worked on the weight ratio was by building the front fenders/hood out of composite and leaving the bed sides tin.
 
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