What issues will I run into cutting the steering stops????

[Mjolnir]

I thought there was another thread on here that discussed in detail the effects of removing the stops. @ducatisps may have put it together.


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Yeah I did it to mine, I ground down the nipples on the LCA's, haven't had any issues, but if I did it again, I'd grind them off the Spindle instead. The spindle still hits my LCA, which has cause a bit of wear.

No ill effects from doing this though, been through three very hard weekends and 6k street miles this way, nothing has broken.

 

[pat'sRAPTOR]

exactly! thats why we now recommend doing the spindle stop first but it won't hurt anything either way you go. i know some guys don't mind the loss of ther steering but thats only because they dont daily drive their trucks like us real men do lol JK

 

[Hole Shot]

Thanks for all the info


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[Yukon Joe]

So of they can be eliminated, why have them there?


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[dkfc13]

I have not pulled apart a Raptor rack and pinion however; generally speaking steering gears (R&P included) are not designed to function as steering stops. Since the Raptor has steering stops built into the knuckle/LCA my guess is this theory holds true for our trucks as well. If you decide to grind off any of the steering stops, I would suggest making sure the LCA contacts the knuckle so that you do not have an increased steering angle over stock because this could ultimately damage your rack and pinion.

Another thing to think about, reducing the steering angle will reduce the required hyd steering pressure and thus reduce the heat build-up in the system. So if you had over heating issues with your power steering (like many of us do), decreasing the steering angle by installing aftermarket LCAs could actually help the over heating issues.

 

[Mjolnir]

I have not pulled apart a Raptor rack and pinion however; generally speaking steering gears (R&P included) are not designed to function as steering stops. Since the Raptor has steering stops built into the knuckle/LCA my guess is this theory holds true for our trucks as well. If you decide to grind off any of the steering stops, I would suggest making sure the LCA contacts the knuckle so that you do not have an increased steering angle over stock because this could ultimately damage your rack and pinion.

Another thing to think about, reducing the steering angle will reduce the required hyd steering pressure and thus reduce the heat build-up in the system. So if you had over heating issues with your power steering (like many of us do), decreasing the steering angle by installing aftermarket LCAs could actually help the over heating issues.

all valid points - I did add the RPG PSR, and am getting a cooler added before the spring as well. With the stock spindles and LCA's from RPG, I lost 30% of my steering, which made it untenable in parking lots, and getting into my garage.

My advice is take a bit off at a time, get to a point where you can live with it, but go from the spindle first.

 

[jcl48]

Nice Info, will be grinding off a bit more from the spindles next week. I grinded off already some from the nipples on the LCAs and also the spindle but just a little bit. My steering angles as of now are: 27° and 28°. will try to leave them close or same as stock. Read a thread some time ago now that Factory Angles were between 32° and 34°, can someone in here confirm that please??

 

[Hole Shot]

I can not confirm but I will say I got another alignment not that it is was a good experience. But that's another thread. But my steering angle did increase with a toe adjustment. The stops are still gonna come off.


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[ntm]

I have not pulled apart a Raptor rack and pinion however; generally speaking steering gears (R&P included) are not designed to function as steering stops. Since the Raptor has steering stops built into the knuckle/LCA my guess is this theory holds true for our trucks as well. If you decide to grind off any of the steering stops, I would suggest making sure the LCA contacts the knuckle so that you do not have an increased steering angle over stock because this could ultimately damage your rack and pinion.

The wheel will contact the secondary shock long before the rack runs out of travel, hence the need for the stops that reduce overall steering travel. You can grind to fine tune it to be closer if you want, but there is no way you can, or want to, cut the stops back so far as to run the rack to it's limits.

 

[Hole Shot]

The wheel will contact the secondary shock long before the rack runs out of travel, hence the need for the stops that reduce overall steering travel. You can grind to fine tune it to be closer if you want, but there is no way you can, or want to, cut the stops back so far as to run the rack to it's limits.

Yea I want to cut the stops but what if I cut too far and my tire hits when I get the second shock and 37s


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