What cost $4500 and takes 32 hours to replace

[KaiserM715]

Tank, can you post some pics of the damage?

 

[MagicMtnDan]

Ford over sold how tough this truck is. As everyone knows I do more rock crawling then wide open stuff. Well, in the process I just about removed the transmission cross member and smash several section of the frame. Something keep in mind this happened about the sometime as the first Raptor Run so thanks to BlueSVT, Ford wouldn't warranty me a frame because they(Ford) feel that a transmission skid plate wouldn't have prevented the damage to my truck. When in fact it probably would have. If you don't want to have to replace a frame buy a transmission skid plate. I know SDHQ and HaftyFabworks make them.

One more then our stock running boards are a joke. I've bent both of mine pretty good.

Sorry to hear you damaged your truck to the tune of a complete frame replacement. That's some serious rock crawling.

As for "Ford over selling how tough this truck is", well, that's subjective and your opinion. I respect it but I do wonder why only after owners have just hammered their trucks do they come out and criticize Ford?

When you say "our stock running boards are a joke" I'm sure you're disappointed in them for not protecting your truck from rock crawling inflicted damage. The problem is that the stock running boards were designed to (1) provide a step for entry into the truck and (2) protect the side of the truck from stones and dirt sprayed up when the truck is driven at high speeds (higher than rock crawling speeds) offroad. They're not rock sliders which is a product I assume you are familiar with, one you didn't purchase for your Raptor.

I've done a fair share of rock crawling in my Raptor and I know:

1. The truck lacks underbody (chassis) protection that rock crawlers need (I'll bet you knew that too)
2. The truck wasn't designed for rock crawling even though it can do it well (as well as a really wide and long truck can)
3. If I hammer my truck offroad I'm responsible

I'm not going to go back and find what you posted in the BlueSVT frame bender threads but I do wonder if your posts questioned how those owners drove their trucks and if you accept full responsibility for what you did to your Raptor? (And if you acknowledge you didn't prepare your Raptor for heavy duty rock crawling by adding skid plates, etc.).

 

[The Tank]

Sorry to hear you damaged your truck to the tune of a complete frame replacement. That's some serious rock crawling.

As for "Ford over selling how tough this truck is", well, that's subjective and your opinion. I respect it but I do wonder why only after owners have just hammered their trucks do they come out and criticize Ford?

I'm not criticizing Ford at all. SVT/Ford/F-150 team have an awesome marketing department. If the damage was worse to where my truck couldn't be repaired I was going to get another one. However the Ford rep for Charlotte area told me Raptors aren't meant to go off-road and I should have bought a Jeep.

you say "our stock running boards are a joke" I'm sure you're disappointed in them for not protecting your truck from rock crawling inflicted damage. The problem is that the stock running boards were designed to (1) provide a step for entry into the truck and (2) protect the side of the truck from stones and dirt sprayed up when the truck is driven at high speeds (higher than rock crawling speeds) offroad. They're not rock sliders which is a product I assume you are familiar with, one you didn't purchase for your Raptor.

My running boards are pretty bent up but what might of gets me is the mounting hardware and brackets is no different then a normal F-150 and the bends and breaks real easy. I would have expected it to be a little stronger.

I've done a fair share of rock crawling in my Raptor and I know:

1. The truck lacks underbody (chassis) protection that rock crawlers need (I'll bet you knew that too)The stock skid plates are good enough but they need one for the transmission to protect the cross over pipe and the cross member.
2. The truck wasn't designed for rock crawling even though it can do it well (as well as a really wide and long truck can)I go mainly with Jeeps and the Raptor can do every they can just fine but because of the fact its a truck and has to have a tow rating the stink bug stance cause a few problems. So I'm going to be doing the top perch mod soon.
3. If I hammer my truck offroad I'm responsibleI accept full responsibly for the damage on my truck. In fact when I went to the dealer I still had all of recovery gear in the truck and the URE pass was still on my light bar and told the service write that my truck has been to URE a couple of times and on the beach several times.

I'm not going to go back and find what you posted in the BlueSVT frame bender threads but I do wonder if your posts questioned how those owners drove their trucks and if you accept full responsibility for what you did to your Raptor? (And if you acknowledge you didn't prepare your Raptor for heavy duty rock crawling by adding skid plates, etc.).

BlueSVT is an idiot he lied to Ford then made a huge deal about it online. I told Ford everything and said nothing online until now. I have rock sliders on order and I'm waiting on my bank account to catch up before I can order my skid plate.

 

[BigJ]

Gotta say I respect you 'manning up' Tank. You pushed this truck to its limit and beyond, and took responsibility for it. Kudos to you.

The only comment you made that kinda made me do a doubletake was the "Ford oversold how tough this truck is" part. It seems out of place compared to everything else you've said in this thread. Can you elaborate a bit more? Do you think Ford knowingly/willfully advertised it as being more capable than it is? Or did you mean something else?

Again though... props to you Sir for handling this so well. You're an example.

 

[The Tank]

Gotta say I respect you 'manning up' Tank. You pushed this truck to its limit and beyond, and took responsibility for it. Kudos to you.

The only comment you made that kinda made me do a doubletake was the "Ford oversold how tough this truck is" part. It seems out of place compared to everything else you've said in this thread. Can you elaborate a bit more? Do you think Ford knowingly/willfully advertised it as being more capable than it is? Or did you mean something else?

Again though... props to you Sir for handling this so well. You're an example.

Personally I don't think I was near the limits. And If I don't think I can do it I have no problem going around or taking a by-pass trail. I think I was victim of poor spotting again but that is life. As far as "Ford over sold how tough this truck is" comment maybe that was bad choice of words but back in early 09 you could not go anywhere online and not find something new Ford put about the Raptor and what they are doing. I think Ford used the Raptor as a test bed for social media because soon after the Raptor went into production the Fiesta Movement started.

Here are Raptor in Moab and I do nothing like this

 

[Nacho]

Those are just shenanigans I wouldn't end up doing in my truck. (ok....maaaaybe once) Brave souls you guys are.

 

[MagicMtnDan]

Kudos to you Tank for manning up! I commend you for your honesty and openness.

We may not always see eye-to-eye but I compliment you for telling it like it is.

 

[KaiserM715]

Tank, did all of your damage come from landing hard in that hole or from the frame dragging over the hole?

 

[GRT4DRT]

Kudos? It's abuse. And that's that. You're lucky you weren't injured and I'm not surprised that y'all blame BlueWhatever for your troubles. I won't even go back to any of your previous quotes regarding frame-bending and driver intelligence.

I would suggest adding a cage if you're gonna continue to rock-crawl with a pick-up.

Welcome to the club....

 

[KaiserM715]

Kudos? It's abuse. And that's that. You're lucky you weren't injured and I'm not surprised that y'all blame BlueWhatever for your troubles. I won't even go back to any of your previous quotes regarding frame-bending and driver intelligence.

I would suggest adding a cage if you're gonna continue to rock-crawl with a pick-up.

Welcome to the club....

You missed something here... Tank admitted himself that his damage was his fault:

I accept full responsibly for the damage on my truck. In fact when I went to the dealer I still had all of recovery gear in the truck and the URE pass was still on my light bar and told the service write that my truck has been to URE a couple of times and on the beach several times.

The kudos were given for him saying it is his fault and for NOT saying that it was Ford's fault for any sort of design flaw, which has been at the root of the majority of posts here discussing BlueSVT (let's NOT drag that dead horse out for another beating).