smurfslayer
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cheapskate frugal ancestors. The savings was between 40 - 50 bucks per month, no other changes.
good work on completing the math though, helping to put hard numbers to the mystical theory as of yet.
IIRC, the Lightning needs an 80 amp circuit. Maybe it would work on a lower rated circuit but if you want the benefit of being able to power your house, probably best not to skimp.
Did someone say “heavy up”?
I’ve been out of the Electrical industry for a while. How long? A heavy up ran $800-$900 when I ran a truck. I understand from a very good friend and current electrician it’s a SOLID 3-4X that amount now.
So, the takeaway here, if there is one or a few
The Lightning will not be the boon to consumer budgets most people think it will.
It also won’t be helping the environment as we may have been led to believe.
Our mileage will definitely vary, because if my wife gets a hold of a Lighting we’ll be charging it every day - she broke the ton on the Rap before I did.
And, as I’ve said before...
F150 Raptor. Austin to El Paso on one tank of gas.
A modern, energy efficient one, possibly. I did an experiment in my last house, because I was tired of hearing the dryer running at all hours. I stopped using it except to purge the wrinkles. Yeah, I hung my clothes out on clothes lines like myAn electric clothes dryer tends to use about 5-5.6kW while running. So, your 1 hour example, 5.6kWh. Here, where admittedly in the Midwest we have reasonably cheap electricity, we're about $0.10/kWh delivered. Makes the math pretty easy, $0.56 per 1 hour, or $2.24 for the 4 hours you mention.
good work on completing the math though, helping to put hard numbers to the mystical theory as of yet.
I have a different opinion. I believe it very much will matter how fast you charge as the faster charge will put a higher load on the ‘grid’. If you’re in the midst of an unprecedented, historic winter storm or record setting heat even at night, then the grid doesn’t get the ‘break’ in the form of lower load and would very much impact availability, possibly cost to purchase energy on the part of suppliers ( I’m talking about you, Texas ) and the potential for rationing in the form of rolling blackouts.It does not really matter how fast you charge it, 80A, 20A, 40A - it just changes the rate. The amount remains the same, and costs the same.
Well, I’ve not experimented in rationing fridges, freezers, AC and a lot of other things in my house, but I have rationed the dryer.Your clothes dryer is also definitely not the biggest energy hog in a household. The reasoning is largely efficiency. Your refrigerators/freezers and AC being the more inefficient systems will use the most. The resistive heating elements and motor of the electric dryer will be nearly 100% efficient, which is an important thing to understand in larger terms - because EV drivetrains follow that rule as well.
I’ve definitely been a Dominion customer and IIRC, the NoVA customer base get the majority of the energy from coal - I think possibly Chalk point? There is a nuclear contribution and I think they may have recently implemented wind power, but I’m not certain of how significant it is. They are well positioned...Duke Energy
Dominion
AEP
are just some examples of regulated utilities,
Also your math is a little fuzzy on the output requirements for level 2 charging, usually a 60 amp circuit is good enough to charge a Level 2 output over night. Anywhere from 40-50-60 will work but I would use a 60 amp breaker.
IIRC, the Lightning needs an 80 amp circuit. Maybe it would work on a lower rated circuit but if you want the benefit of being able to power your house, probably best not to skimp.
Maybe the gov will pay for everyone to upgrade electric heat to heat pumps. If not, the people with natural gas heat, water heaters and appliances are really going to be screwed when their locality outlaws gas appliances and mandates electric cars. The typical 125amp 2500 sq/ft (gas) house service is gonna get wrung out.
Did someone say “heavy up”?
I’ve been out of the Electrical industry for a while. How long? A heavy up ran $800-$900 when I ran a truck. I understand from a very good friend and current electrician it’s a SOLID 3-4X that amount now.
So, the takeaway here, if there is one or a few
The Lightning will not be the boon to consumer budgets most people think it will.
It also won’t be helping the environment as we may have been led to believe.
Our mileage will definitely vary, because if my wife gets a hold of a Lighting we’ll be charging it every day - she broke the ton on the Rap before I did.
And, as I’ve said before...
F150 Raptor. Austin to El Paso on one tank of gas.