Badgertits
FRF Addict
On the hunt for a replacement truck, as many may be aware inventories are tight right now - I really don't want to get something used unless its a great deal b/c even slightly used lower mileage (15-35k) are basically selling for near-new pricing but w/o the new car smell or full warranty or lower interest rates.
I have looked quite a lot for a replacement Raptor & I don't really want or need a fully loaded up one, & every time I say "F it" & try to make some deals on the ones in that price range either a) they get sold before I have time do anything, b) the dealer has taken it upon themselves to destroy the truck by adding a rocky ridge lift package (literally found 5 like this), or c) they want anywhere from $3-$5k markup on top of MSRP
My "fall back" plan to save some cash would be to get a decently optioned Ram or Chevy w/ 6.2 & work a deal seems like you can get more incentives w/ them since Ford just did their redesign on the F150 (and I have no interest in a standard F150) - but that would just be a "stop gap" measure for me to wait & see if something that really grabs my attention (like a new Raptor or TRX) comes out.
I did find a lower tier optioned "801a mid" w/ leather in lead foot that I could get for like $1000 off MSRP & throwing in a rollup tonneau- would be $64k +ttl, in comparison to my 2018 801 that stickered just slightly higher I would be giving up a pano roof (don't really care), nav (has 8' sync screen & wifi so not big deal), the tailgate step, remote start on key & the bed lights. The tailgate step & bed lights I liked.....I'd be "gaining" a better color (Lead foot > black), live valve shocks, torsen front diff, wifi hot spot, & trailer brake control. I can remote start through the app so that's OK.
Since I didn't like the idea of not getting a "good deal" on a Raptor & having to give up a little bit of options I opted at looking at F250's & Ram 2500's. I basically disregarded the F250 w/ the 7.3, assuming it was underpowered (it is) - but I did test drive a Tremor w/ the 7.3 & a well equipped Lariat w/ the diesel. The Tremor w/ 7.3 def felt lighter, easier to maneuver, sounded OK w/ stock exhaust, & handled better (may be due to suspension too) - but while I don't even tow heavy, I can imagine w/ my 2 boys, 80 lb dobie, wife, all their crap, a bed full of nonsense & 2 jet skis in tow it would be simply adequate & working all the time - also I think the gas mileage would be abysmal
The Powerstroke? HOLY HELL DOES IT HAVE ALL THE POWER!!!! TOO much power almost? Not usable when unladen in 2wd for the first few gears, just get wheel slippage, w/o having a 4A or AWD mode like the Raptor I feel like this could get old fast despite how awesome it is to simply feel all the power on tap, if you stomp on it you BETTER be pointed straight & have plenty of runway to bring it back down to speed.
The ride on the SD trucks - diesel or gas tremor or Lariat/XLT was SIGNIFICANTLY better than I expected/remembered from previous experience w/ HD trucks. I have no issue w/ it whatsoever. That being said - nothing holds a candle to the Ram trucks 1/2 ton or otherwise - they have the best ride & the most luxury hands down. If they offered the 6.4 N/A Hemi w/ 485hp in the 1/2 ton Rebel or whatever - I'd probably go that route, but the 5.7 is too tame compared to the 6.2 GMs & the 3.5 EB - the Ram 2500 Cummins is pretty awesome, but the whole thing is a mish/mash combo of 4th & 5th gen updates, & doing some research found out that in 2021 the Ram HD trucks will get the rest of the full redesign - one of which being a real Allison transmission or (possibly an Aisin?) - either way, a Cummins is great but not paired to a Chrysler built 6 speed.....reliability would be a concern & its down @ least 2 if not 4 cogs compared to modern standards now set by Ford/GM
Long rant - those are my thoughts - any last advise or experience owning a Tremor and/or Ford Powerstroke??
I could really see the diesel growing on me despite the fact that I ABSOLUTELY don't need it.....on other hand I def don't need a Raptor & most people on this forum would be fine w/ a Tacoma too so don't lie!!!!
I have looked quite a lot for a replacement Raptor & I don't really want or need a fully loaded up one, & every time I say "F it" & try to make some deals on the ones in that price range either a) they get sold before I have time do anything, b) the dealer has taken it upon themselves to destroy the truck by adding a rocky ridge lift package (literally found 5 like this), or c) they want anywhere from $3-$5k markup on top of MSRP
My "fall back" plan to save some cash would be to get a decently optioned Ram or Chevy w/ 6.2 & work a deal seems like you can get more incentives w/ them since Ford just did their redesign on the F150 (and I have no interest in a standard F150) - but that would just be a "stop gap" measure for me to wait & see if something that really grabs my attention (like a new Raptor or TRX) comes out.
I did find a lower tier optioned "801a mid" w/ leather in lead foot that I could get for like $1000 off MSRP & throwing in a rollup tonneau- would be $64k +ttl, in comparison to my 2018 801 that stickered just slightly higher I would be giving up a pano roof (don't really care), nav (has 8' sync screen & wifi so not big deal), the tailgate step, remote start on key & the bed lights. The tailgate step & bed lights I liked.....I'd be "gaining" a better color (Lead foot > black), live valve shocks, torsen front diff, wifi hot spot, & trailer brake control. I can remote start through the app so that's OK.
Since I didn't like the idea of not getting a "good deal" on a Raptor & having to give up a little bit of options I opted at looking at F250's & Ram 2500's. I basically disregarded the F250 w/ the 7.3, assuming it was underpowered (it is) - but I did test drive a Tremor w/ the 7.3 & a well equipped Lariat w/ the diesel. The Tremor w/ 7.3 def felt lighter, easier to maneuver, sounded OK w/ stock exhaust, & handled better (may be due to suspension too) - but while I don't even tow heavy, I can imagine w/ my 2 boys, 80 lb dobie, wife, all their crap, a bed full of nonsense & 2 jet skis in tow it would be simply adequate & working all the time - also I think the gas mileage would be abysmal
The Powerstroke? HOLY HELL DOES IT HAVE ALL THE POWER!!!! TOO much power almost? Not usable when unladen in 2wd for the first few gears, just get wheel slippage, w/o having a 4A or AWD mode like the Raptor I feel like this could get old fast despite how awesome it is to simply feel all the power on tap, if you stomp on it you BETTER be pointed straight & have plenty of runway to bring it back down to speed.
The ride on the SD trucks - diesel or gas tremor or Lariat/XLT was SIGNIFICANTLY better than I expected/remembered from previous experience w/ HD trucks. I have no issue w/ it whatsoever. That being said - nothing holds a candle to the Ram trucks 1/2 ton or otherwise - they have the best ride & the most luxury hands down. If they offered the 6.4 N/A Hemi w/ 485hp in the 1/2 ton Rebel or whatever - I'd probably go that route, but the 5.7 is too tame compared to the 6.2 GMs & the 3.5 EB - the Ram 2500 Cummins is pretty awesome, but the whole thing is a mish/mash combo of 4th & 5th gen updates, & doing some research found out that in 2021 the Ram HD trucks will get the rest of the full redesign - one of which being a real Allison transmission or (possibly an Aisin?) - either way, a Cummins is great but not paired to a Chrysler built 6 speed.....reliability would be a concern & its down @ least 2 if not 4 cogs compared to modern standards now set by Ford/GM
Long rant - those are my thoughts - any last advise or experience owning a Tremor and/or Ford Powerstroke??
I could really see the diesel growing on me despite the fact that I ABSOLUTELY don't need it.....on other hand I def don't need a Raptor & most people on this forum would be fine w/ a Tacoma too so don't lie!!!!
