"The Raptor... sizzles like bacon, even in the snow."

[MarkT]

My Raptor worked great in the snow... nothing too deep but I was amazed at how sure-footed it was where other 4WD's were slipping and sliding.

But the BFG's definitely leave something to be desired in mud... especially clay.

 

[The Tank]

I disagree...last year we had 28in and I was able to drive out...View attachment 1493View attachment 1494View attachment 1495

I didn't say it couldn't do it but I was hoping it would have taken a little less effort on the trucks part. At first it was driver's error I forgot that you have to re-disable T/C when changing modes but after that it worked better but still required more effort then I would have expected.

Sucks compared to what other pickup? How does the skid plate "work like a snow plow"?
My stepdad's 2008 gas powered Chevy 2500HD non-Z71 4x4 was easier to move in the deep snow. He has a 285 BFG A/T. With snow up over the Raptor's bumper the angle of the skid plate does an awesome job of collection the snow as you drive over it. The Chevy didn't have this problem because its skid plates are more like belly plates.



The only reasons I can think of for the Raptor to have issues in the snow would be (1) the tires and (2) not having any/enough weight in the back.

The tires would clearly be the primary reason for poor performance in snow. As you've stated, the BFG A/T KO treads don't self-clean and won't perform in snow or mud as well as a tire with wider gaps between the treads (like a Mud Tire).

Adding some weight to the bed of the truck will help the rear end gain traction but the tires will be the limiting factor.

 

[whtrapta]

Are you all nuts!? After this blizzard that just passed, my truck does hands down AMAZING. I can go anywhere in 2 feet or more of snow and ice. Launches from lights in 4WD are like the road is dry. Never had an issue turning or braking ever. Everyone creeps down the ice and snow covered highway at 30, I blow past them doing 70 no problem. Are you sure you were driving a raptor?

 

[BentToast]

Are you all nuts!? After this blizzard that just passed, my truck does hands down AMAZING. I can go anywhere in 2 feet or more of snow and ice. Launches from lights in 4WD are like the road is dry. Never had an issue turning or braking ever. Everyone creeps down the ice and snow covered highway at 30, I blow past them doing 70 no problem. Are you sure you were driving a raptor?

You should have your license taken from you.

 

[MagicMtnDan]

Nice drive-by BT

 

[Nv Guy]

Went out with some local 4X4's. I was the first to get stuck. High centered, my 03 Rubicon would kick the Raptors a@@ in the snow.
The tires dont self clean & it's to heavy for it's tire size- no floatation, it just sinks until it bottoms out. However, on the trip back down the hill I left em all in the dust.
End result, on paved roads with light to moderate snow, it works great, get out in the sticks in 12"+ snow- bring a strap and a Jeep.

 

[MagicMtnDan]

It's simple: The Raptor needs snow and mud tires for snow and mud.

 

[The Tank]

We thought about mud tires for the Raptor. They work awesome in mud, but they sucked at the trade-offs. They were horrible in grass. They were horrible in sand. They were horrible on the pavement. They were horrible in snow. They only worked in the mud, whereas the BFG All Terrain worked everywhere, though it's biggest weakness was mud. It's kind of a bummer but for those who use the Raptor in the mud, they'll put on MTs.

Not that I agree with Ford's decision of having the SVT Performance Package for the GT500 but having a package like that for the Raptor that makes it a little more aggressive off-road would be nice. Personally I think when I pay for that SVT badge, that it's the very best the factory can come up with that lawyers won't be all OMGWTFBBQ Sauce and there should be no SVTPP.

 

[BentToast]

Tank, you are thinking of Bugatti, not Ford. They do have to sell some of them, which means building to a price. Also, if they made it perfect right away then the second gen wouldnt have anything to improve on, or one might not make it into production at all.
I do think a mud package would be a good option that some people would want. So would a new Bronco rock crawler, or a Lightning. I also believe new tires is one of the easiest things you can change youself, esp. considering no one tire can do it all and no one tire will make everybody happy. Ford made a good all-rounder that specializes in sand and high speed dirt terrain, and chose tires accordingly.

 

[The Tank]

Tank, you are thinking of Bugatti, not Ford. They do have to sell some of them, which means building to a price. Also, if they made it perfect right away then the second gen wouldnt have anything to improve on, or one might not make it into production at all.
I do think a mud package would be a good option that some people would want. So would a new Bronco rock crawler, or a Lightning. I also believe new tires is one of the easiest things you can change youself, esp. considering no one tire can do it all and no one tire will make everybody happy. Ford make a good all-rounder that specializes in sand and high speed dirt terrain, and chose tires accordingly.

SVT is no different the BMW's M Division or MB's AMG. SVT took a huge hit after the FGT and Ford created Ford Performance Group. Ford needs another John Colletti to head up SVT. Most SVT don't get a big change until Ford changes the vehicle like the 1st and 2nd Gen L. They either add or take away colors, change wheels, or general improvements to the vehicle. There will be no new L the current chassis is way way way to heavy. Hameedi estimated the cost of a 3rd Gen L to be around 60K just to get to the same performance as the 2nd Gen.