The Detroit Auto Show - New Raptor Unveiling Thread

[dataustin]

I wonder how GM is getting away with it then. Most all of their platforms come standard with V8's. Seems a bit fishy one manufacturer is balls to the wall in V8's and Ford is crying 4and 6's for them?? Things that make you go Hmmmm!

Are you referring to the company that WE bailed out or the company that refused the $? Lol

 

[skyscraper]

Try reading the thread before assuming what I am talking about. If you read you would see the post above mine stating that ford is removing V8's from all its vehicles including the mustang. Show me where a Ford Rep has publicly stated that....

It was sarcasm dude. I also don't think the V8 is going away entirely.

 

[SilentShooter]

It was sarcasm dude. I also don't think the V8 is going away entirely.

Sarcasm does not really come across in text..

But I am sure we all will be driving 3 cyl raptors in 2020...

 

[COBRA90GT]

"The sky is falling, the sky is falling !"

Quick, everybody start hoarding V8s the way people were (are?) hoarding ammunition!
j/k


Now, onto a few serious latenight thoughts from here in the Motor City (my hope is for the folks who were at SVT to listen to the enthusiasts and help affect change at management - or, bring John Coletti back from retirement if needed) :


1 - I don't like the drop/loss of the "SVT" name (as a whole) either; I know Ford started to move away from "SVT" a little while back and created "Ford Performance Group." And now it seems they are totally dropping the "SVT" nameplate and going with just "Ford Performance."

It's very odd because there is SO much instant brand recognition with "SVT." Three simple letters that led the way. "Performance. Substance. Exclusivity." The hallmarks of a SVT vehicle. You knew a SVT vehicle was a little "more special." Others in the industry wanted to become "SVT" (ie - "SRT" anyone?).

Sigh. Must be that silly global vision "moving forward" catch phrase that those in the business keep repeating over and over during press releases.


2 - Make better use of the "truck apps" section on the dash/speedo cluster of the new gen Raptor. This area was such an under-utilized part of the truck's electronics system compared to other products (ie - Mustang).

Give us: oil pressure, oil temp, water temp, etc. Hell, maybe even an industry first altimeter for those who like to catch big air (I'm not kidding about the last part).

Allow lighting customization for background colors on the speedo dash, cup holders, footwells, ambient lighting systems, or whatever the new gen Raptor is going to come with.


3 - Ensure that the new sunroofs and rear windows won't have problems. Customers don't want to deal with the hassle of finding a shattered rear window (with or without using their rear defrosters) or a sticking/stuck sunroof.

Make sure that the design is 100% sound and not flawed. There's too many current generation Raptors (as well as regular F-150s) that have had problems here. It's embarassing, to put it bluntly.


4 - On the topic of V8s, on a truck like this it's fair to say that many would at least like to see the option of a V8 engine. There's just something about the noise and sound a V8 makes when you're gunning it (especially with an aftermarket exhaust). It's an emotional topic, for sure.

Ecoboosted V6s are here to stay. We get that. Go ahead and make it the default/standard powerplant but allow for a really fuel thirsty V8 (perhaps one that is even boosted?) as an optional engine with the gas guzzler tax if you must.

Ecobeast V8? Do it. Go crazy with the idea.

A V8 in an offroad truck like the Raptor (or a Mustang) is about as American as apple pie and baseball. At the very least, you just gotta have one available - even if it's a high dollar option that adds silly amounts of money to the MSRP.


That's all I got for now Ford / SVT (RIP?) / Ford Performance Group (or was it FPG ?) / Ford Performance (FP?)...more ideas and suggestions to come at a later time.

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^ Oh yeah, almost forgot - bring the Bronco back too. That'd be perfect with the Ecoboost V6 for rock crawling. Then stick V8 in Raptor.

 

[LITTLEELVISDAN]

Here is my biggest problem with the whole eco boost idea in the raptor and it's getting completely missed in all the hype. The SVT Raptor always had the biggest power plant. As a premium vehicle it should always have something more than the base. If now they are sharing the same power plant as the base model the price of the new Raptor SHOULD DROP BY AT LEAST $15k. IS ANYONE TALKING ABOUT A PRICE DROP?
Really the new Raptor is no more than a wider truck with some additional interior options over a fx4

 

[DrippinRaptor]

these trucks are just too damn slow.

Too slow for what? Are you drag racing or something?

 

[LITTLEELVISDAN]

The Eco boost is not all that either. Let's compare.
Eco boost TT
HP. 365
TQ. 420
3.5 liter
MPG 17/23


Nissan GTR V6 TT.
HP. 545.
TQ. 463.
3.8 liter
MPG. 16/23

Can be modded to over 1000 HP

YOu give me a V6 like that in a Raptor for the same price as the current model and I'll shut up.

 

[Westside Offroad Group]

Just my thoughts but wait and see, our trucks are going to look & feel really old 2 years from now once you've been seeing the new F150s on the road for that amount of time. The gen 1 Raptor will be 7 model years old by that time which is an eternity. If the gen 2 was to be released this Fall I would probably be in line for one. As it stands, I'll now probably throw a Roush on mine and enjoy it more and then go for the '17 when available. Even with one hell of a (SVC) tune, these trucks are just too damn slow. I don't need the Whipple level of power so Roush would be just about perfect for me. Install looks easy and reliability seems good.

I agree! Let's do this thing!

Combine this:

Roush Supercharger Kit

With a Lund Racing tune (seriously holy **** those dudes have their Raptor tune game ON POINT, especially for supercharged trucks) and you'll have a reliable beastly raptor

PM / email / call me for discounts on the roush kit, you're on your own for the tune!

The world needs more boost

 

[Madcowranch]

I agree! Let's do this thing!

Combine this:

Roush Supercharger Kit

With a Lund Racing tune (seriously holy **** those dudes have their Raptor tune game ON POINT, especially for supercharged trucks) and you'll have a reliable beastly raptor

PM / email / call me for discounts on the roush kit, you're on your own for the tune!

The world needs more boost

Biebs. you get me excited. I bet you could suck a golf ball thru a garden hose.

 

[Westside Offroad Group]

Biebs. you get me excited. I bet you could suck a golf ball thru a garden hose.

You say that like its a bad thing