Stingray23
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The Detroit Auto Show - New Raptor Unveiling Thread
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So many inaccurate statements in this thread. People are just regurgitating random 'Facts' that are completely untrue or misconstrued info as truth.
With that said, i'm still on the fence with this Gen 2. love the interior, unsure on all the electronic doo dads, mixed feelings on the exterior. I haven't even changed the oil on my 14' and already have a little bit of new truck envy. I think that is attributed more to the fact that it is the newest thing out there. I was unsure on the C7 vettes and I haven't seen an ugly one on the street yet. they always impress me when i see them.
I think the Gen1's have a classic look to them and will stand the test of time. I think 20 to 30 years from now they will be more highly saught after by enthusiests than the Gen 2's.
About the EB V6. "there is no replacement for displacement" doesn't hold true once you add boost. I know what everyone is thinking, "well I can boost my V8". That is true but i garantee the EB v6 can make just as much if not more power dollar for dollar. If you want to argue power potential the real argument between the 6.2 and the 3.5 is which Block can hold more power? internals can be upgraded but i'm not aware of any aftermarket blocks for either and at this point in the discussion we are talking about retarded amounts of money. So as far as I'm concerned its a dumb argument. Also, anyone that says turbo's aren't reliable are severely mis-informed.
That said, the EB v6 sounds like shit! for that reason I don't think i could live with it. Hopefully ford will fix the sound the right way! not with some artificail speaker ********.
MPG's. Who Cares!!! noone bought these trucks for the gas milage. (goverment mandates are the reason so if you want to complain, don't complain to ford).
I don't care what the milage is on the street. however, if you can drive 100-200 miles further on a sinlge tank that is a Huge capability for offroading expedition's.
-Scott
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also,
someone photoshop the front grill to be a straight line accross, pull the center part of the bumper up to match. I think that would really eliminate the superduty look and would also improve the approach angle.
that terrain PS looks pretty good too!!
With that said, i'm still on the fence with this Gen 2. love the interior, unsure on all the electronic doo dads, mixed feelings on the exterior. I haven't even changed the oil on my 14' and already have a little bit of new truck envy. I think that is attributed more to the fact that it is the newest thing out there. I was unsure on the C7 vettes and I haven't seen an ugly one on the street yet. they always impress me when i see them.
I think the Gen1's have a classic look to them and will stand the test of time. I think 20 to 30 years from now they will be more highly saught after by enthusiests than the Gen 2's.
About the EB V6. "there is no replacement for displacement" doesn't hold true once you add boost. I know what everyone is thinking, "well I can boost my V8". That is true but i garantee the EB v6 can make just as much if not more power dollar for dollar. If you want to argue power potential the real argument between the 6.2 and the 3.5 is which Block can hold more power? internals can be upgraded but i'm not aware of any aftermarket blocks for either and at this point in the discussion we are talking about retarded amounts of money. So as far as I'm concerned its a dumb argument. Also, anyone that says turbo's aren't reliable are severely mis-informed.
That said, the EB v6 sounds like shit! for that reason I don't think i could live with it. Hopefully ford will fix the sound the right way! not with some artificail speaker ********.
MPG's. Who Cares!!! noone bought these trucks for the gas milage. (goverment mandates are the reason so if you want to complain, don't complain to ford).
I don't care what the milage is on the street. however, if you can drive 100-200 miles further on a sinlge tank that is a Huge capability for offroading expedition's.
-Scott
---------- Post added at 03:50 AM ---------- Previous post was at 03:46 AM ----------
also,
someone photoshop the front grill to be a straight line accross, pull the center part of the bumper up to match. I think that would really eliminate the superduty look and would also improve the approach angle.
that terrain PS looks pretty good too!!
beachz
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I think you are all avoiding the real question here... dance around it if you want but you know you are thinking it... if I put the new Raptor at mid perch, will I have to get an alignment done? 
SlimChaChi
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I think you are all avoiding the real question here... dance around it if you want but you know you are thinking it... if I put the new Raptor at mid perch, will I have to get an alignment done?
Lol...
6gun
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I'm sure it will look great in person, but it kinda looks like they took a cup of black coffee and turned it into a Latte'! They feminized it!
I must be one of the severely miss informed. I remember replacing turbos on Ford vehicles like they were tic-tacs. But over the road diesel turbos last forever so turbos must be reliable
The GT 3.5 features port and direct fuel injection. Maybe the Raptor 3.5 will also. With the way some people argue in this thread, this a step backwards in technology. Gotta take care of that carbon some how.
The GT 3.5 features port and direct fuel injection. Maybe the Raptor 3.5 will also. With the way some people argue in this thread, this a step backwards in technology. Gotta take care of that carbon some how.
LITTLEELVISDAN
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I went through 2 turbos back to back in my Nissan. So reliability is sketchy with me. They are more sensitive to maint and proper oil changes, Proper cool down before shutting the motor down etc. Oh and as for Diesel turbos. I have seen many seize up due to corrosion between the two metals. Especially if you don't run them every day. So in my world Turbo's are not rock solid technology that can take extreme amounts of abuse/neglect without a lot of love and care. Technology getting better,, Yes,, Holy grail, No. It will be interesting to see how the turbo's hold up for the Baja guys ingesting all that dust and dirt in extreme heat conditions.
Having said that I wouldn't be a fan of turbo'ing the 6.2 as a stock offering either.
Having said that I wouldn't be a fan of turbo'ing the 6.2 as a stock offering either.
I am very well versed in the ecoboost motors,( I have much more experience then just reading specs on them) I am not knocking them but we are only making assumptions on what the raptor numbers will be. Nothing has been publicly released so like I said time will tell. Also I do not hold much value in "specs" over real world performance so I do not get caught up in the spec number races. Sure its a good base line to get an idea of power output but there are so many other variables to consider then just HP and TQ. So again time will tell and I am excited for this next generation of raptor. I do hope the ecoboost is a good as ford makes it out to sound. I look forward to owning it just like many other guys here.
Sorry if my previous post was not clear in my options/thoughts
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