Tell me I'm completely insane for even considering this........

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If you truly want a Raptor I would wait, if you don't then do what works for you. But you are not going to get many Folks here to agree with your first post. And you can't honestly even begin to compare a Durango to a Raptor. The great news is that you can do what ever you want regardless of what is said here. I agree with the post above, there are a bunch of nice Gen 2's for sale if you look hard enough.
 
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Thanks everyone. Probably should retire this thread.
I'll check out the Durango interior, but I don't think the 392 will make up for the other reasons I want the Raptor.
Verdict is that I'm nuts for even remotely considering this option.......
 

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And I wouldn't pay sticker for a trailhawk: those things were being discounted $10-13k off sticker pre pandemic.
Then you shouldn't pay sticker for a Raptor. Less than two years ago, getting one for invoice was easy. Seriously, facking Kias are getting big ADMs. Used cars are selling for more than they did new. The game today is very different than it was a couple of years ago. Sunk cost, bygones, spilt milk and all that.
 

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Only you know what you will be happy with. We will all say Raptor is the better choice. My opinion is this: if they are the same price and you need a truck for truck stuff, get the Raptor. I had an suv before and no truck. Trips to Lowe's were not as fun when you can't fit what you bought in the back.
 
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Then you shouldn't pay sticker for a Raptor. Less than two years ago, getting one for invoice was easy. Seriously, facking Kias are getting big ADMs. Used cars are selling for more than they did new. The game today is very different than it was a couple of years ago. Sunk cost, bygones, spilt milk and all that.
Apples and oranges.
Raptors pre pandemic had a 3 year depreciation of 15-20%, c/w the average F-150 of 30-40%. The jeep GC are even worse.
It's entirely vehicle dependent.
 
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Your money , I can see a TRX instead of a Raptor I guess , still not my cup of tea . Durango ? I don’t get that as a alternate choice at all . Again your money
 
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Is the Durango 392 still being made?
Yes. They dc'd the hellcat.
Attached is a copy of the build I did........... I think it looks a little better than a mini van, at least from the front.
 

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At the risk of getting blasted, here goes...........

Given the 3 bumps in my build date (now pushed out another 2 months to April), I started thinking whether this was a sign to perhaps not a get raptor. Accordingly, I started thinking about other options.
As I posted way back, I've always been intrigued by the 392 Hemi V8, and as such, cross shopped a Rubicon 392. Then I drove a Rubicon with the turbo diesel and decided quickly that there was no way I could live with this on long drives. I also have loved the Raptor from afar for years, but never seriously considered getting one until moving up here to the mountains and driving my buddy's gen 2.

When I drove his, I really liked it-- A LOT, minus the turbo lag in normal mode, and figured based on what I read about the Gen3, I'm going to like it even more. I live in a rural community at 6500 ft, and won't be doing hard core rock crawling, and likely won't be pushing the Raptor in the desert either, but am intrigued about doing some stupid stuff occasionally down in the desert w/o hopefully doing any serious damage.

I can't have a second 'fun' sports car right now, so having one vehicle that does it all is important.
So, the other vehicle I'm considering is.............

.......A Dodge Durango SRT 392.

Before anyone laughs too hard, the reasons are as follows:
-- Durango gives me a very good DD --similar to the Raptor. Not sure which would be more comfortable for long drives to Utah and CA, which I will do every couple of months, along with twice a month drives down to Phoenix.
--Durango would scratch the 392 itch, and from what I'm hearing, this engine may be retired soon b/c of emissions laws. I have no idea if this is true, but if it is, then it makes sense to own one for a couple of years and then get the Raptor later, as it's not going anywhere.
-- Off roading: I haven't done nearly as much as I thought I would in my current ride: 4runner TRD pro. Therefore, I'm not sure it's a big loss here. The Durango can get me to the light trails I need to get to for hiking. The big minus is no fun in the desert, but again, I wasn't going to push my Raptor too hard down there.

In terms of cons..........
--The Durango interior << Raptor. I much prefer the Raptor interior in terms of tech/design, and space, and on long drives, will probably enjoy driving the Raptor more with the new suspension set up in the 3rd gen. Durango will be a stiffer ride for sure, but probably fine in 'auto mode'. I can't find a SRT Durango anywhere around me, so there isn't a chance to compare the two.
--If I change my mind about off roading, I'm screwed.

In terms of fun factor:
--Not sure about this one. I love the way the Raptor handles on road, but that exhaust note isn't going to put a smile on my face the way the 392 will.

Unknowns:
--I'm not sure if the AWD platform with AS tires on the Durango (295/45/20) or the auto/part time 4wd system in the Raptor is going to be better for our winters when it does snow and the roads ice over. This is only relevant for 3, maybe 4 months out of the year.


--Bottom line is that I now KNOW I want a Raptor one day, after having driven one. I completely get the love people here have for them. I'm just proposing an alternative for maybe 2 years before I sell it and get a Raptor once this economy cools and the supply chain issues resolve.
--yes, I'll still have to order the Durango and there may be delays there too............no guarantees.
--Price wise: it's close to a wash. Durango built out is more expensive than the Raptor at MSRP by a few thousand, but I'll get about 5% off MSRP on the Durango.


Tell me I'm nuts for even considering this alternative.
 

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$7k off sticker is amazing............PM me if you don't mind.
Best I could find on the Rubicon 392 way back was about $2k off sticker. However, I've heard dealers aren't selling them the way they thought they would
Contact these good folks to order a 392 Wrangler at $10k below MSRP. The wait will be just as long :(

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