So Don't Get me Wrong, I love my Raptor, But....

[Badgertits]

Porsche does all kinds of dumb shit-for starters, putting a motor in the wrong place.

I like some Porsche’s...but they could never produce a raptor, because they’re not inventive- they just tweak & refine a design for decades rather than truly innovate. Their best selling vehicle is quite literally a rebadged Audi/VW- yeah I know there are plenty of differences, but if they were such crackerjack engineers why couldn’t design an suv on their own merit?

Better than that, why can’t they (or any non-US manufacturer for that matter) design ANY truck period thatd Be competitive in this be market? The answer they don’t need know how.

What I do know is Ford & GM know how to make a solid truck for a relatively cheap price AND make sports cars that wipe the tarmac w/ Porsche’s that cost 1.5/2/3x what there’s do.

They may not have been built in a clean room, but at then end of the day it’s the time slip that counts.....

That’s my opinion on em

 

[PlainJane]

You should have searched YOUTUBE for a less distructive method of removing nuts before you grabed it with vice grips. You chose poorly!

Would you use those vice grips to remove the valve covers on your Porsche?

Sorry for the rant, but IMHO it's the "Mechanic" that's the problem.

 

[smurfslayer]

Pretty unacceptable for an $80k truck though

The Ghost of Andyslog past ... ;-)

 

[GCATX]

My son a few months back borrowed my then brand new '19 Raptor to go winter camping/hiking in Nova Scotia. Put 2k miles on it. Great. Glad he's a kid I can trust to lend vehicles, etc. to.

When he gets home to his house in NJ, he accidentally mounts a curb, hits a concrete bollard and damages one running board.

The bent bracket is the least of your problems, I'd say. Sounds like your kid needs a swift kick in the ass and needs to learn how to to weld a nut on, or grind 2 flat sides on a round headed bolt. Kids these days though.

 

[ademarco]

All I can say is lucky your son was borrowing the Raptor and not the Porsche. It would probably have been more than a running board to repair and probably 1000x more costly.

 

[Badgertits]

All I can say is lucky your son was borrowing the Raptor and not the Porsche. It would probably have been more than a running board to repair and probably 1000x more costly.

OR much More likely, his son would be also in need of “repair”- afternoon crashing the krautmobile

FOR the life of me, cannot understand why Porsche is considered “luxury”- high price, well crafted, high end materials....sure, but it ain’t any more “luxurious” than an Acura.

AT their essence they’re poorly thought out, underpowered, overpriced, subpar performing relative to their peers, overly complicated for the sake of being so flat six wannabe track rats.

Vettes....hell certain mustangs & Camaros eat em up & spit em put on a routine basis.

 

[Spectragod]

I changed my boards out with AMP power steps, all my bolts spun off easy. And that headless stud in an aluminum rocker panel, isn't just a stud with a round head. There is a reason there are specialty tools to do body repair on these.

 

[davidl81]

OR much More likely, his son would be also in need of “repair”- afternoon crashing the krautmobile

FOR the life of me, cannot understand why Porsche is considered “luxury”- high price, well crafted, high end materials....sure, but it ain’t any more “luxurious” than an Acura.

AT their essence they’re poorly thought out, underpowered, overpriced, subpar performing relative to their peers, overly complicated for the sake of being so flat six wannabe track rats.

Vettes....hell certain mustangs & Camaros eat em up & spit em put on a routine basis.

I'm not trying to be a Porsche snob, but they do make a fine driving automobile. Here is a list of production vehicles Nurburgring times (Where GM tkaes their cars to get best lap times).

20,600 m (67,600 ft)

6:44.97

Lamborghini Aventador LP770-4 SVJ (2018)

20,600 m (67,600 ft)

6:47.25

Porsche 911 GT2 RS (991.2)

20,600 m (67,600 ft)

6:48.28

Radical SR8 LM

20,600 m (67,600 ft)

6:52.01

Lamborghini Huracán LP 640-4 Performante (2017)

20,600 m (67,600 ft)

6:55

Radical SR8

20,600 m (67,600 ft)

6:56.4

Porsche 911 GT3 RS (991.2)

20,600 m (67,600 ft)

6:57

Porsche 918 Spyder

20,600 m (67,600 ft)

6:59.73

Lamborghini Aventador LP 750-4 Superveloce (2015)

20,600 m (67,600 ft)

7:01.3

Dodge Viper ACR (2017)

20,600 m (67,600 ft)

7:05.41

Porsche 911 GT3 RS (991.2)

20,600 m (67,600 ft)

7:08.679

Nissan GT-R NISMO (2015)

20,600 m (67,600 ft)

7:10.92

Mercedes-AMG GT R R (2017)

20,600 m (67,600 ft)

7:11.57

Gumpert Apollo Sport

20,600 m (67,600 ft)

7:12.13

Dodge Viper ACR (2010)

20,600 m (67,600 ft)

7:12.7

Porsche 911 GT3 (991.2)

20,600 m (67,600 ft)

7:13

Porsche 918 Spyder

20,600 m (67,600 ft)

7:13.90

Chevrolet Corvette C7 Z06



The Corvette comes out 16th on this list behind six Porsche's. I just don't think its fair to say that Vette's, Mustangs, and Camaro's eat them up and spit them out on a routine basis.

Now if we start speaking about value for the dollar, then the Z06 Vette is pretty hard to beat, but that is not what we were talking about.

 

[xrocket21]

Porsche sucks, they couldnt design their way out of a paper bag. 1965 called, they want their beetle back

 

[davidl81]

Porsche sucks, they couldnt design their way out of a paper bag. 1965 called, they want their beetle back

Not trying to be a jerk, but have you ever tracked one? A few years ago in Denver we did a track day while I had my M6 (FI). There were Z06's out there, Audi's, almost anythign you could think of. Nothing came close to the performance of the 911 GT's out there. And those were NA engines at 1 mile elevation. I grew a huge amount of appreciation that day for those vehicles.