Should I give up my Raptor?

Should I keep my Raptor?


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FordTechOne

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Would all that electric stuff Ford is coming out with help?

I’ve been on here since 2013 and I just don’t remember seeing these many issues in the gen 1.

You seem to be very knowledgeable, what say you about the reliability of the ecoboost and the gen 2 in general?


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Yes, the electric models are rated in "e-MPG", which is then figured into the CAFE average, pulling it up significantly. This is the logic that Ford has provided for their shift to focus on the truck/SUV/crossover market while discontinuing sedans; they can achieve fuel economy targets using larger/heavier vehicles through hybrid/plug in hyprid and full electric powertrains.

I have no concerns regarding reliability of the Gen II Ecoboost, which is the same architecture used in the GT. Earlier builds (pre-mid 2018) may experience cam phaser noise, but it by no means affects every engine and is not detrimental to engine performance or longevity. The earlier models also used a 2-piece oil pan (aluminum upper, plastic lower) that can be susceptible to an oil leak on early builds (poor RTV adhesion from the plant). The issue was corrected in production through a new RTV process before the new one-piece aluminum oil pan was implemented.

The Gen II has a lot of positive attributes over the Gen 1 Ecoboost. Port/Direct Fuel injection (PFDI) was introduced to improve cold starting and emissions while eliminating carbon carbon buildup on the valves, the valve train was upgraded from Direct Action Mechanical Bucket (DAMB) to Roller Finger Follower for less friction and improved performance/NVH, the camshafts are hollow castings to save weight/reduce rotating mass, the turbocharger waste gates were upgraded to electronically controlled units instead of vacuum units to allow for precise control under all conditions, the turbocharger compressor wheels were upgraded to M-247 alloy for less weight and better spool speed with higher durability, and the timing chain design was revised for improved durability (2 primary chains instead of one).

In regards to Gen 1 Raptor (6.2) vs Gen 2 Raptor (3.5 HO), that more personal preference than anything. Both engines follow similar design principles (same engineering) and both are reliable, just a matter of what you're looking for in a truck engine.
 

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In regard to the chassis, I'd be surprised if the TRX was offered as a 2500 (8 lug). The 2500 is significantly heavier than the 1500; even a base model 2500 is close to 6500lbs with the standard 6.4 N/A gas engine. Weight is not favorable in a baja style truck that is equipped to get airborne. I suspect that they may be testing some components on a 2500 (Power Wagon) chassis that will be implemented in the 1500 TRX. We shall see.

My assumption was they are experimenting with a heavier duty axle. The TRX with a steel body and supercharged hemi is going to have to weigh over 6k, even if they just dropped it into the existing 1500 platform with no further upgrades. That's a lot of power and weight. I am not sure what axle the 1500s come with but I wouldn't be surprised if it isn't up to the task. And this thing isn't going to help build the RAM brand if it blows out the rear differential on a regular basis.
 
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