GEN 2 Serious engine hesitation

[Sasquatch77]

Now it's a safety issue?

It's pretty hard to imagine a person so pathetic they'd just sit on the internet for weeks (months?? years?) and spread misinformation about a truck they don't even own... yet here we are.

Just wait until you have an engine misfire. Those here that have had it can tell you how scary it is. Ask the mass of ecoboost owners what they think of the misfire condition... they will tell you the same. I am amazed at the cavalier approach some have here. Why would you not learn from others and even care about your safety and that of others?

 

[ogdobber]

For the same reason I don't patch my tires before I get a flat.

Your analogy makes no sense whatsoever. How would you ever know where to patch...and then the nail would go right through it anyways.
A better analogy is how off road racers put slime in their tires, just in case they hit a cactus... Oh wait, i guess that kinda supports the weep hole...
You guys are the trolls, offering nothing. Just flaming a guy for what seems to be an ongoing problem for the ecoboost.
If you don't have a problem, great. But search around...there are a few that seem to have eerily similar symptoms.
Maybe say something useful, like average temp and humidity you drive in??


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[CFIT]

Your analogy makes no sense whatsoever. How would you ever know where to patch...and then the nail would go right through it anyways.
A better analogy is how off road racers put slime in their tires, just in case they hit a cactus... Oh wait, i guess that kinda supports the weep hole...
You guys are the trolls, offering nothing. Just flaming a guy for what seems to be an ongoing problem for the ecoboost.
If you don't have a problem, great. But search around...there are a few that seem to have eerily similar symptoms.
Maybe say something useful, like average temp and humidity you drive in??


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I'm in Los Angeles, so it's very dry and pretty hot here right now.

I hear what you're saying, but I'm having a hard time buying into the weep hole theory. I'm having an even harder time with the idea of busting out my Makita and drilling a hole in ANYTHING under the hood of my $70k truck.

My question for the weep hole proponents is this: if the fix is as simple as drilling a hole, as you say, why does Ford not do this from the factory? Are you suggesting that the Ford engineers don't know about this "fix"? Or do they not know about the "problem"? If there's no downside, why would they not simply do this at the factory?


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[ogdobber]

I'm in Los Angeles, so it's very dry and pretty hot here right now.

I hear what you're saying, but I'm having a hard time buying into the weep hole theory. I'm having an even harder time with the idea of busting out my Makita and drilling a hole in ANYTHING under the hood of my $70k truck.

My question for the weep hole proponents is this: if the fix is as simple as drilling a hole, as you say, why does Ford not do this from the factory? Are you suggesting that the Ford engineers don't know about this "fix"? Or do they not know about the "problem"? If there's no downside, why would they not simply do this at the factory?


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Epa wont allow because it can (and usually does) contain oil. Must be a closed system

Same reason i had to put a zerk in my yoke. Why wouldn't ford put one there? Stupid you have to pull the driveshaft to grease right?
Epa doesn't allow...i guess just in case the zerk fails and starts flinging grease. Because they fail all the time hahahha. So dumb

As far as you living in SD err LA...no fear till next rainy season. Or not [emoji23]


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[Sasquatch77]

I'm in Los Angeles, so it's very dry and pretty hot here right now.

I hear what you're saying, but I'm having a hard time buying into the weep hole theory. I'm having an even harder time with the idea of busting out my Makita and drilling a hole in ANYTHING under the hood of my $70k truck.

My question for the weep hole proponents is this: if the fix is as simple as drilling a hole, as you say, why does Ford not do this from the factory? Are you suggesting that the Ford engineers don't know about this "fix"? Or do they not know about the "problem"? If there's no downside, why would they not simply do this at the factory?


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Having to drill a hole is unacceptable... but, that is the only solution for this problem. This is why these inherent design issues from ford are so terrible.

Ford doesn't do this from the factory or in service because the EPA would come after them for the oil residue part of what is blown out. There is a vast amount of info out there on this. Every ford forum for a product with an ecoboost has a STICKY that goes into great detail about the weep hole.

 

[CFIT]

Epa wont allow because it can (and usually does) contain oil. Must be a closed system

Same reason i had to put a zerk in my yoke. Why wouldn't ford put one there? Stupid you have to pull the driveshaft to grease right?
Epa doesn't allow...i guess just in case the zerk fails and starts flinging grease. Because they fail all the time hahahha. So dumb

As far as you living in SD err LA...no fear till next rainy season. Or not [emoji23]


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Rainy season? I think we had one of those a few years back. It rained for HOURS...

I tried disconnecting the battery for 20 minutes to reset the computers today. The transmission shift points seemed a little off, so I wanted to reset all that. I'm going to wait and see if the reset has any effect on anything else, and if the engine hesitation issue presents itself again at some point.

I'm not about to go drilling holes in my (warrantied) truck unless this becomes a repeated issue for me, that the dealer is unable to resolve.


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[Big Johnson]

Your analogy makes no sense whatsoever. How would you ever know where to patch...and then the nail would go right through it anyways.
A better analogy is how off road racers put slime in their tires, just in case they hit a cactus... Oh wait, i guess that kinda supports the weep hole...
You guys are the trolls, offering nothing. Just flaming a guy for what seems to be an ongoing problem for the ecoboost.
If you don't have a problem, great. But search around...there are a few that seem to have eerily similar symptoms.
Maybe say something useful, like average temp and humidity you drive in??


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I am not flaming the guy, I am just saying that I believe he is overstating the issue. The analogy was meant to be stupid, just like telling someone to fix something that isn't broken. I don't dispute that some people experience this issue. I just have a problem with someone saying every ecoboost owner has done this. Simply not true.

 

[J.Bodolay]

Ok. What changes are there??

A question you might want to answer yourself is: From the Air Box Hose to the Intake Manifold, what parts are the same between the original Ecoboost motor and the redesigned Phantom unit in the Gen 2 Ford Raptor?

Bonus question: Do the motors have similar airflow characteristics or management strategies?

A little less time listening to our internet heroes and more time researching available online technical information may prove useful.

 

[BajaFred]

Your analogy makes no sense whatsoever. How would you ever know where to patch...and then the nail would go right through it anyways.
A better analogy is how off road racers put slime in their tires, just in case they hit a cactus... Oh wait, i guess that kinda supports the weep hole...
You guys are the trolls, offering nothing. Just flaming a guy for what seems to be an ongoing problem for the ecoboost.
If you don't have a problem, great. But search around...there are a few that seem to have eerily similar symptoms.
Maybe say something useful, like average temp and humidity you drive in??


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Before you defend the weep hole, I'll ask you the same thing

Find me one reputable person on any forum that's done this with documented pictures AND videos on a 2015 or newer truck

I can't find a single one, and S77 hasn't shown me any - been asking for months

http://www.fordraptorforum.com/f261/way-handle-intercooler-condensate-buildup-problems-3-5-ecoboost-55743/index8.html#post1170235

 

[ogdobber]

A question you might want to answer yourself is: From the Air Box Hose to the Intake Manifold, what parts are the same between the original Ecoboost motor and the redesigned Phantom unit in the Gen 2 Ford Raptor?



Bonus question: Do the motors have similar airflow characteristics or management strategies?



A little less time listening to our internet heroes and more time researching available online technical information may prove useful.

Oh yeah a "revolutionary" new design that just so happens to keep the intercooler low.
Airflow? Come on scientist tell me more about that... Pretty obvious that to get the power up you are going to have to get more air in. And of course a completely different map to feed it... And control the active shutters that are the ONLY (obvious anyways) thing that is there to control the condensate. Im sure the angles of the charge tubes where well thought out to not let air stall. And i'm sure overall its a much better design. Yet still hesitations...
Thanks for your contribution bud





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