Road trip with a family of 5 over 3500 miles and 12 days. How does the Raptor hold up?

[MRV99]

I am comparing the Raptor to the Range Rover not the Range Rover Sport. RR and RRS are quite different from each other. I've owned two Range Rover Sports (2016 V6 with KO2s, 2017 V8 with Cooper AT3) and a Range Rover (V6 with Cooper AT3 4S).

1) I mean isolation from bumps/imperfections, and general smoothness/comfort of the ride. The Range Rover is a much smoother ride than the Range Rover Sport (I've owned both for years) and the Raptor is comparable to the Range Rover, which puts it on-par with the Range Rover Sport (or better). They've done a fantastic job of tuning the suspension on the Raptor.

2) Maybe there's something wrong with your Raptor? M/T tires? Older/worn KO2s? Full size Range Rover has a noticeably quieter interior than the Range Rover Sport and the Raptor is comparable to the Range Rover, which puts it on-par with the Range Rover Sport (or better).

4) The 20mpg you're reading out on your dash is anywhere from 12-20% off (I believe default "offset" is 18% from the factory--you can change it with FORSCAN type tools). Calculate your actual miles driven and divide that by how much fuel you put in to see what you're really getting. My display would regularly read 21-23mpg highway (while driving 75mph), but with actual calculations I'd be getting 17-19mpg in reality.

5) Zero body roll on the Range Rover Sport. I'm talking about the Range Rover, which has obscene, borderline nauseating amounts of body roll. My Raptor feels like a sports car through corners compared to the Range Rover.

Yea i have Pilot Sport AS4's so we are not even talking tires that are even in the same ballpark. You are comparing KO2's and AT3 to KO2's so I completely understand why you responded that way.

1) The rides are 100% different in my mind. Just like BMW's vs Merc vs Range Rover Sport. They are very different in my opinion. On a track in a 911, BMW, Audi, Merc they all feel completely different and are very distinguisable. I guess I am just mentaly comparing a perfromance offroad Truck vs Street Performance SUV.

2) yea i still don't agree. I was in the RRS yesterday doing 80 just to see if I am missing and I cannot come to the same conclusion. Still giving the noise comfort to the RRS The tires are no comparison. New KO2's are really quiet but put 30K on them and they make some noise. You cannot compare a street perfromance Pilot Sports to an A/T

3) I don't use the dash mpg. I use the good ol calculator because I set the trip every fill up. Then it is simple math, miles/gallons.

I will have to differ to your RR vs RRS knowledge. I can only speak to RRS so I assume your are correct.

 

[MRV99]

If you drive at a speed that keeps it out of boost, you'd find your missing 3 MPG on the highway and maybe a couple more.

Completely aware of the boost in these motors. if I am below 70 then it can climb but 70 mark the box truck is in boost. Cruise on.

 

[ReLLiK75]

My 19 Gen 2 consistently got 19-20 on the hwy. it was goose tuned and Cobb sport TCM tune. My 21 is way lower, 17-18 stock. Not sure why, but don’t really care as it runs great

Are you tuned? I'm thinking about tuning my '22. Although i was told that here in the Vegas desert, the Goose Tune will not offer much benefit and that I'd be fine with the basic Cobb tuning. There's got to be a way to get better than 14 MPG.

 

[Nolo0125]

We got back early in the week from our adventure taking the 3 boys and wife from MN down to FL. Stopping for a couple days in St Louis, Atlanta, Nashville, and Gurnee.

I’ve taken a few different vehicles on long road trips with the family in excess of 2500 miles. This would include:

2020 Subaru Ascent
2018 Tesla Model X
2017 Ford Explorer
2018 Jeep Wrangler JLU

I have another road trip on the docket for the Rivian R1S coming soon. For now, my best comparison to the Raptor for comfort is the Model X we drove down to Texas.

Pros:
1. Smooth ride
2. Lane keep assist worked well for 95% of the trip and kept my fatigue to a minimum
3. The recaro seats were amazing and kept great comfort
4. The rear seat has enough shoulder and hip room to where my boys rarely complained about proximity.
5. 540 to 600 miles of range between full ups
6. Quiet mode made the exhaust note of zero concern or annoyance

Cons:
1. Obviously some road noise due to tires being 37s. They also have over 20,000 miles on them.
2. Besides my Jeep which was a mistake for the road trip, the other vehicles had 3rd row seating.. I think overall I prefer the 3rd row but the positives from driving the Raptor made up for it.
3. It’s a truck and the bed was full so getting to items as needed at stops when applicable was more of a challenge than from an SUV. Again another obvious one.
4. Blue cruise… or lack there of… it’s really too bad this truck doesn’t have it. 50 of the 65 hours I was driving this thing I definitely wish it was a feature available.

Some day I want to own a new Land Rover Range Rover 7seater, I’m curious how our Rivian will fair, I’m also a big fan of the new Sequoia TRD Pro which I’d like to get for my wife. Overall, the Raptor ends up topping my list for road trips due to comfort, size, range, and the ability to take it anywhere on the trip off road. There probably isn’t a perfect family road trip vehicle, but this seems close outside of a motorhome.

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Or you could just go this route and make everyone happy by pulling it behind a MH.

 

[Littlefx4]

There's got to be a way to get better than 14 MPG.

There is…see @EricM post below.

If you drive at a speed that keeps it out of boost, you'd find your missing 3 MPG on the highway and maybe a couple more.

Or you could just go this route and make everyone happy by pulling it behind a MH.

And have the below post happen…no way, José (not that your name is José or anything, lmao).

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[ToadSmasher2K1]

There is…see @EricM post below.



And have the below post happen…no way, José (not that your name is José or anything, lmao).

3mpg is saving you less than $20 a tank. Just drive the truck.

Buy a Raptor and drive it like a Prius. Makes no sense

 

[New recaros]

Are you tuned? I'm thinking about tuning my '22. Although i was told that here in the Vegas desert, the Goose Tune will not offer much benefit and that I'd be fine with the basic Cobb tuning. There's got to be a way to get better than 14 MPG.

I have had only one goose tune and it was absolutely marvelous. I would spend the additional 400 or what ever it is now and let him do his magic. I would also use the Cobb sport tune on the tranny. Totally wakes up the truck, no more lugging around in the city or rural roads and is ready to rock with a quick throttle press.

 

[pnwobrigade]

Seems like this has turned into a MPG thread! Sweet, I recently did 600 mile trip over Cascades from West to Eastern WA (not the longest trip) but lots of elevation change with average speeds of 75-80mph. My total average was 16.5mpg with 37's. Prior to that my 1,000 mile trek back from Montana netted almost 18mpg but at much lower speeds and sub-freezing temps.

I've come to find once over 70mph it's nearly impossible to keep it out of the turbos and get above 17mpg unless you live in Kansas. With that said, this is one of the best road trip vehicles I've ever owned including a number of Audi, BMW, VW, etc.

 

[MDJAK]

Come on you pikers with your short trips. We’ve done 3 trips from NY to Moab and northern Idaho in two Gen2s and a Gen3.
No kids, no dogs. 17mpg at best. More like 16.8 or so. But who gives a rat’s arse about mpg. If I did I wouldn’t be driving a Raptor.

Someone mentioned Escalade Super Cruise. From videos I’ve watched, by far the best system out there. I’d love to try it.

Raptor is an awesome road trip vehicle. Each of our X country trips were about 7k miles.

 

[engineer]

Yea i have Pilot Sport AS4's so we are not even talking tires that are even in the same ballpark. You are comparing KO2's and AT3 to KO2's so I completely understand why you responded that way.

1) The rides are 100% different in my mind. Just like BMW's vs Merc vs Range Rover Sport. They are very different in my opinion. On a track in a 911, BMW, Audi, Merc they all feel completely different and are very distinguisable. I guess I am just mentaly comparing a perfromance offroad Truck vs Street Performance SUV.

2) yea i still don't agree. I was in the RRS yesterday doing 80 just to see if I am missing and I cannot come to the same conclusion. Still giving the noise comfort to the RRS The tires are no comparison. New KO2's are really quiet but put 30K on them and they make some noise. You cannot compare a street perfromance Pilot Sports to an A/T

3) I don't use the dash mpg. I use the good ol calculator because I set the trip every fill up. Then it is simple math, miles/gallons.

I will have to differ to your RR vs RRS knowledge. I can only speak to RRS so I assume your are correct.

For tires I meant the ones on your Raptor not the RRS.

Do you have the Td6 RRS?