Report: 2019 F-150 Raptor To Receive Ford’s New 7.0L DOHC V8 Motor

[Truckzor]

a very long wait indeed

That's ok. A truck like that would actually be worth the wait.

 

[Jake17]

A truck like that will be worth the wait.

ya, sure it will

 

[MustangAndRaptor]

Everyone here hoping for the TTV8 realizes that it's also going to sound like shit compared to a NA V8, yeah?

Really? lol let me know if you want some clips of it in boost

https://youtu.be/_HOhIaHUxQs

 

[WarSurfer]

Again, as for potential, I'm betting that it's less expensive to upgrade the turbos on the HO 3.5L EB to make 500+ rwhp than it would be to slap a blower on a V8 to get to the same power level. We already know that the longblock can take 30 psi, once the right turbos are in place...

I want no part of this pissing match.

For the sake of clarity though, a DOHC 7 liter would EASILY make 600bhp from the factory.

A bone stock mustang GT 5.0 is rated at 87hp/L. I think it's safe to say a Raptor engine would at least meet that metric which puts it right at 609hp/560tq. A supercharger would (going by the same metric) produce 938hp/763tq assuming internal components are at least as good as a current Mustang GT.

 

[Truckzor]

ya, sure it will

Note: I said would. You said will. But your wording is better. Nobody with any brains ever thought Ford's flagship truck would have a V6 for very long.

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Everyone here hoping for the TTV8 realizes that it's also going to sound like shit compared to a NA V8, yeah?

Put down the kool aid.

 

[Micha]

Turbos always change the sound of an exhaust on any vehicle.

5 Star Tuning just made 477 rwhp and (approx)575 rwtq on a bone stock truck with just 93 octane.

I can't wait for my warranty to run out in 3 years. LOL.

 

[BurnOut]

I agree with all your commentary on block, piston, and rod sizing. So let's agree it would take MORE than an additional 33% to get from a NA 3.5 V6 to a NA 7.0 V8. Fair? But by how much? Neither of us actually knows. And then when you factor in the additional weight of the TT setup, my view remains that, in the context of a 3 ton truck, the potential weight savings wouldn't be worth the significant trade offs (lower power, less reliability, less potential, horrendous sound, etc). What's your view again?

You're really going to drag a motor with a carb on it into this conversation? Come on man. You want to talk steam engines next?

When you factor in the additional purchase price, I don't believe the 3.5 will be cheaper to get to 500+RWHP. But we won't know for sure until one actually gets there, right? I'm sure many will fail trying. And what a pointless exercise. In the meantime, the smart money will be waiting for the 7.0.

Hey, they were available with injection through '96...

 

[dude1782]

FYI there are a lot of g2ers with og raptor experience and it is a significant improvement in factory trim off road. I took my g1 cousin off road (yes some g2s actually off road) in my 2017 and he loved it and he was looking at g2s after. As for off road reliability, ford did a full bitd season and the b1k in the new raptor. If there were any inherent design problems they would have/ did fix it. If anything does go wrong it will come from a defect or failure not from regular intended use.

Most of us didn't get it because it had a v6. We got it because that's what it was offered with and realized that it's an improvement (lighter, more powerful, better weight distribution). Many og owners asking if the g2ers have driven a g1 have themselves not driven a g2. The 2018 is definitely coming with the same engine so I'm good for at least 2 years. If there's an upgrade for 2019 I'll look into it. But I'm still skeptical because ford has a lot invested in the v6.

 

[BurnOut]

I want no part of this pissing match.

For the sake of clarity though, a DOHC 7 liter would EASILY make 600bhp from the factory.

A bone stock mustang GT 5.0 is rated at 87hp/L. I think it's safe to say a Raptor engine would at least meet that metric which puts it right at 609hp/560tq. A supercharger would (going by the same metric) produce 938hp/763tq assuming internal components are at least as good as a current Mustang GT.

hp/L tends to go down as engine size increases. Keep in mind that the formula for horsepower rewards RPM... so that a modest amount of torque at high RPM results in big horsepower numbers. Ford's not going to build a high-winding truck motor... it's just wrong for the application.

Look at the GM LS7... 505 hp out of a 7k RPM 427. The heads flow great, too, so even though it's a 2V motor instead of a 4V motor, I'd be REALLY surprised to see the truck-oriented Ford DOHC 427 break 500 hp by much. In other words, about 5 extra pounds of boost on the EB for the same result... why go through all the headaches of certifying a different engine for the application if more power is just a couple PSI away?

 

[MustangAndRaptor]

why go through all the headaches of certifying a different engine for the application if more power is just a couple PSI away?

Easy, because there is obviously a demand for it. Sure they aren't having any issues selling the V6 for now but what about 2018 or 2019? Wouldn't be surprised if ford pulled something similar to the 5.4 to 6.2 or the 2010 mustang gt getting the 4.6 then a year later they gave it the 5.0, another two year offering is the 13-14 GT500 getting the 5.8L instead of the 5.4L

You just never really know with ford from my observation over recent years