Report: 2019 F-150 Raptor To Receive Ford’s New 7.0L DOHC V8 Motor

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From the article, the 7.0 will be ready for MY 2019. With Ford out touting this engine so much and seeing more and more hype around it, I would b shocked if it was NOT in a raptor. For 19, hopefully they add that and fix the awful body line on the bed sides towards the front.

So first you promised engine changes mid-year 2017. Then it was for sure in 2018.
Now it's 2019????

Are you sure you don't want to play it safe and just say 2023 for the gen3 Raptor???
 

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This has been a very entertaining thread! So much so I feel I must join in on this and bring this thread back from the dead. First off being a Gen 1 13 terrain screw owner I tip my hat to you Gen 2 owners. The truck is better in every way except sound of course. Being a road course and drag strip guy first I can see where Ford was going with this. Weight. Weight is every vehicles enemy. I'm constantly looking for ways to cut weight to my e46 M3 and always looking to get more power and cut front end weight from my 67 GTO with a 509 merlin big block. My first experience test driving what would become my first Ford vehicle (after 09 couldn't swallow the bailout GM got plus GM doesn't have anything close to the baddest truck on the planet) I immediately felt the serious weight this truck had particularly the heavy understeer from all the weight up front. Fast forward to the Gen 2. You Gen 2 guys are right its better in every way. However if I list my vehicles in 2 columns Id list my Raptor in the GTO column not in the inline 6 M3 column. I personally even though I know its lighter faster more power better suspension I cant see myself getting one to put it theoretically in the M3 column. Its personal preference really on how we feel for some of us Gen 1 owners. Now lets get to the heart of this post. The Gen 2 Raptor is King of the Hill. The Gen 1 Raptor is a relatively distant second to the King. The closest 3rd King of the hill are light years away being the Ram Rebel and Toyota Tundra TRD Pro. I talked to a guy who deals with the ford performance guys who said the 6tt is here to stay. I then mentioned the Ram Rebel TRX. He didn't say anything. Mopar loves taking everything and giving it a hellcat motor. Now given both vehicles dynamics its very possible that a gen 2 can hang with a 575hp hellcat rebel truck because of the rebels lack of experience in the prerunner field. While never being a mopar person and never will the exhaust note on the TRX is intoxicating. Plus on paper it looks to be the superior machine. Even if its made in limited models and costs a fortune. They claim to have a raptor killer.....on paper at least. You know Mopar desperately wants to topple the King along with everyone else I'm sure. So while weve been arguing why the 7.0 wont happen because the King doesnt need to go back to that ancient engine layout.....Mopar definately is going with an ancient engine layout and supercharged to boot and we all know it. That TRX is coming. Ive only seen a few Hellcat Challengers and Chargers but when I do I know its coming. I can still late brake him though ;). My question to you guys is can the current motor in your Gen2 at 600hp (max possibly) from hennessey, match or exceed the proposed Hemi Hellcat of 575hp (but lets face it at some point that will turn into 707hp) in a special edition Raptor? Or does it need a 7.0 NA special edition cranking out 800hp to stay at the top of the Hill as the King? Will Ford accept defeat or the possibility of defeat by the TRX? The possibility is why I wonder if a second killer motor is on the way.
 

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This has been a very entertaining thread! So much so I feel I must join in on this and bring this thread back from the dead. First off being a Gen 1 13 terrain screw owner I tip my hat to you Gen 2 owners. The truck is better in every way except sound of course. Being a road course and drag strip guy first I can see where Ford was going with this. Weight. Weight is every vehicles enemy. I'm constantly looking for ways to cut weight to my e46 M3 and always looking to get more power and cut front end weight from my 67 GTO with a 509 merlin big block. My first experience test driving what would become my first Ford vehicle (after 09 couldn't swallow the bailout GM got plus GM doesn't have anything close to the baddest truck on the planet) I immediately felt the serious weight this truck had particularly the heavy understeer from all the weight up front. Fast forward to the Gen 2. You Gen 2 guys are right its better in every way. However if I list my vehicles in 2 columns Id list my Raptor in the GTO column not in the inline 6 M3 column. I personally even though I know its lighter faster more power better suspension I cant see myself getting one to put it theoretically in the M3 column. Its personal preference really on how we feel for some of us Gen 1 owners. Now lets get to the heart of this post. The Gen 2 Raptor is King of the Hill. The Gen 1 Raptor is a relatively distant second to the King. The closest 3rd King of the hill are light years away being the Ram Rebel and Toyota Tundra TRD Pro. I talked to a guy who deals with the ford performance guys who said the 6tt is here to stay. I then mentioned the Ram Rebel TRX. He didn't say anything. Mopar loves taking everything and giving it a hellcat motor. Now given both vehicles dynamics its very possible that a gen 2 can hang with a 575hp hellcat rebel truck because of the rebels lack of experience in the prerunner field. While never being a mopar person and never will the exhaust note on the TRX is intoxicating. Plus on paper it looks to be the superior machine. Even if its made in limited models and costs a fortune. They claim to have a raptor killer.....on paper at least. You know Mopar desperately wants to topple the King along with everyone else I'm sure. So while weve been arguing why the 7.0 wont happen because the King doesnt need to go back to that ancient engine layout.....Mopar definately is going with an ancient engine layout and supercharged to boot and we all know it. That TRX is coming. Ive only seen a few Hellcat Challengers and Chargers but when I do I know its coming. I can still late brake him though ;). My question to you guys is can the current motor in your Gen2 at 600hp (max possibly) from hennessey, match or exceed the proposed Hemi Hellcat of 575hp (but lets face it at some point that will turn into 707hp) in a special edition Raptor? Or does it need a 7.0 NA special edition cranking out 800hp to stay at the top of the Hill as the King? Will Ford accept defeat or the possibility of defeat by the TRX? The possibility is why I wonder if a second killer motor is on the way.



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This has been a very entertaining thread! So much so I feel I must join in on this and bring this thread back from the dead. First off being a Gen 1 13 terrain screw owner I tip my hat to you Gen 2 owners. The truck is better in every way except sound of course. Being a road course and drag strip guy first I can see where Ford was going with this. Weight. Weight is every vehicles enemy. I'm constantly looking for ways to cut weight to my e46 M3 and always looking to get more power and cut front end weight from my 67 GTO with a 509 merlin big block. My first experience test driving what would become my first Ford vehicle (after 09 couldn't swallow the bailout GM got plus GM doesn't have anything close to the baddest truck on the planet) I immediately felt the serious weight this truck had particularly the heavy understeer from all the weight up front. Fast forward to the Gen 2. You Gen 2 guys are right its better in every way. However if I list my vehicles in 2 columns Id list my Raptor in the GTO column not in the inline 6 M3 column. I personally even though I know its lighter faster more power better suspension I cant see myself getting one to put it theoretically in the M3 column. Its personal preference really on how we feel for some of us Gen 1 owners. Now lets get to the heart of this post. The Gen 2 Raptor is King of the Hill. The Gen 1 Raptor is a relatively distant second to the King. The closest 3rd King of the hill are light years away being the Ram Rebel and Toyota Tundra TRD Pro. I talked to a guy who deals with the ford performance guys who said the 6tt is here to stay. I then mentioned the Ram Rebel TRX. He didn't say anything. Mopar loves taking everything and giving it a hellcat motor. Now given both vehicles dynamics its very possible that a gen 2 can hang with a 575hp hellcat rebel truck because of the rebels lack of experience in the prerunner field. While never being a mopar person and never will the exhaust note on the TRX is intoxicating. Plus on paper it looks to be the superior machine. Even if its made in limited models and costs a fortune. They claim to have a raptor killer.....on paper at least. You know Mopar desperately wants to topple the King along with everyone else I'm sure. So while weve been arguing why the 7.0 wont happen because the King doesnt need to go back to that ancient engine layout.....Mopar definately is going with an ancient engine layout and supercharged to boot and we all know it. That TRX is coming. Ive only seen a few Hellcat Challengers and Chargers but when I do I know its coming. I can still late brake him though ;). My question to you guys is can the current motor in your Gen2 at 600hp (max possibly) from hennessey, match or exceed the proposed Hemi Hellcat of 575hp (but lets face it at some point that will turn into 707hp) in a special edition Raptor? Or does it need a 7.0 NA special edition cranking out 800hp to stay at the top of the Hill as the King? Will Ford accept defeat or the possibility of defeat by the TRX? The possibility is why I wonder if a second killer motor is on the way.

and then what happened?
 

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i have been impressed with the 3.5 so far! I have never owned anything but V-8 and diesel!
 

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This has been a very entertaining thread! So much so I feel I must join in on this and bring this thread back from the dead. First off being a Gen 1 13 terrain screw owner I tip my hat to you Gen 2 owners. The truck is better in every way except sound of course. Being a road course and drag strip guy first I can see where Ford was going with this. Weight. Weight is every vehicles enemy. I'm constantly looking for ways to cut weight to my e46 M3 and always looking to get more power and cut front end weight from my 67 GTO with a 509 merlin big block. My first experience test driving what would become my first Ford vehicle (after 09 couldn't swallow the bailout GM got plus GM doesn't have anything close to the baddest truck on the planet) I immediately felt the serious weight this truck had particularly the heavy understeer from all the weight up front. Fast forward to the Gen 2. You Gen 2 guys are right its better in every way. However if I list my vehicles in 2 columns Id list my Raptor in the GTO column not in the inline 6 M3 column. I personally even though I know its lighter faster more power better suspension I cant see myself getting one to put it theoretically in the M3 column. Its personal preference really on how we feel for some of us Gen 1 owners. Now lets get to the heart of this post. The Gen 2 Raptor is King of the Hill. The Gen 1 Raptor is a relatively distant second to the King. The closest 3rd King of the hill are light years away being the Ram Rebel and Toyota Tundra TRD Pro. I talked to a guy who deals with the ford performance guys who said the 6tt is here to stay. I then mentioned the Ram Rebel TRX. He didn't say anything. Mopar loves taking everything and giving it a hellcat motor. Now given both vehicles dynamics its very possible that a gen 2 can hang with a 575hp hellcat rebel truck because of the rebels lack of experience in the prerunner field. While never being a mopar person and never will the exhaust note on the TRX is intoxicating. Plus on paper it looks to be the superior machine. Even if its made in limited models and costs a fortune. They claim to have a raptor killer.....on paper at least. You know Mopar desperately wants to topple the King along with everyone else I'm sure. So while weve been arguing why the 7.0 wont happen because the King doesnt need to go back to that ancient engine layout.....Mopar definately is going with an ancient engine layout and supercharged to boot and we all know it. That TRX is coming. Ive only seen a few Hellcat Challengers and Chargers but when I do I know its coming. I can still late brake him though ;). My question to you guys is can the current motor in your Gen2 at 600hp (max possibly) from hennessey, match or exceed the proposed Hemi Hellcat of 575hp (but lets face it at some point that will turn into 707hp) in a special edition Raptor? Or does it need a 7.0 NA special edition cranking out 800hp to stay at the top of the Hill as the King? Will Ford accept defeat or the possibility of defeat by the TRX? The possibility is why I wonder if a second killer motor is on the way.



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Or does it need a 7.0 NA special edition cranking out 800hp to stay at the top of the Hill as the King?

800 / 7.0 = 114.3 horsepower per liter.

That's WAY more than the GT 350R.

Meanwhile, back here on planet earth, the rest of us would be cool if they would just offer the 395 horsepower dual injected 5.0 as the base Raptor engine.

Sigh.
 

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I'll take the super tunable twin turbo 3.5 over any NA v8... NA V8's are a dying breed, they really aren't that great.
 

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Damn! How did I miss this thread!? First Rappuppy, where ya been, been a while since I heard your yap!
First, it has been fun to read the jennys talk about how great the v6tt is. All the while these threads come up of when do we get a V8? Just curious, you NEVER see us Gen 1 owners wishing for a new motor. Hummmmm
And YES, the Gen 2 is faster on the road stop sign to stop sign. You Win!!
But let us remember most of us own 2 rides. So if we gonna go head to head I ain’t stupid!
Off road- door one the GEN 1
On road- door two the VETTE
Yep both have lame ass 6.2, maybe not stock
 

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Damn! How did I miss this thread!? First Rappuppy, where ya been, been a while since I heard your yap!
First, it has been fun to read the jennys talk about how great the v6tt is. All the while these threads come up of when do we get a V8? Just curious, you NEVER see us Gen 1 owners wishing for a new motor. Hummmmm
And YES, the Gen 2 is faster on the road stop sign to stop sign. You Win!!
But let us remember most of us own 2 rides. So if we gonna go head to head I ain’t stupid!
Off road- door one the GEN 1
On road- door two the VETTE
Yep both have lame ass 6.2, maybe not stock

If the 6.2 is such a great thing and all, why do so many seem so insecure about it? If it’s all that, who among them would care about the 3.5TT?

If all the people who claim the 6.2 is not just good, grrrreat! were that convinced, then these threads would whither away and die a quick death

7.0 indeed. Poseurs. Next gen Raptor will be external combustion. :flipthebird:
 
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