Real Raptor Specs? (Price, HP/TQ, ect)

[solsurfr]

Craigy is correct about the "allocation" process. The term is sometimes thrown around loosely, and it's meaning gets construed.

Dealers who perform well with a certain vehicle (Raptor, in this case) are given "allocations" from Ford. This means they are granted the ability to order and receive a vehicle configured by them to their specs, based upon what they want/what they think will look and sell best on their lot. One dealer may receive 2 allocations, while another 15. This is mostly dependent on your volume from previous model years. In the Raptors case, it's 70% dependent on previous Raptor sales, and 30% dependent on the sales share of F150 nationwide (Region A shall receive x% of F150s produced, while Region B shall receive x%).

So, if it's safe to assume, if your dealer (at this point) is offering you a Raptor and talking specifics with you such as date, ect, then they are confident they are receiving an allocation. Maybe they received 8 in 2014 and sure that they will receive at least that many this time around. But from what I've seen, allocated models tend to be the loaded models that are charged a premium and look good sitting out on the lot. Catching the eye of the passer-by, drawing them into the dealer. Said dealer then makes the sale and gets a premium profit due to the premium price.

As we all know, the cheaper alternative is the ordering process, though it takes longer than walking onto the lot, it allows you to buy close to invoice pricing. And if the dealer plays ball, then this is the cheapest route for the Raptor since the alphabet plans and discounts are excluded. Customer ordered Raptors HAVE NO EFFECT ON ALLOCATION NUMBERS. The dealership will receive their allocations as produced (Allocations take precedence over customer ordered vehicles, parts/options depending), and your ordered vehicle will fit onto the assembly line as soon as Ford can make it happen. Again, a good time frame is 12 weeks after order placed with dealer. You will receive updates from your dealer as the process progresses. And there is of course a payment required upfront (5K, which goes towards your vehicle), in the event you back out of the sale prior to completion, and ordered an oddly outfitted vehicle they may have trouble selling.

What dealers also do is promise to save an allocation spot for a customer, order their vehicle to spec (much like the ordering process regularly), but then charge the premium price (5-10K over MSRP) for being one of the first vehicles out. Guarantees a dealer has a buyer for one of their allocated vehicles, gets money in up front, and they still make the premium profit. ****** for customer, but it's the dealers way to make money. Wouldn't recommend this route.

But there's been some good information said in this thread. We at least know now that the order banks will open sometime around 7/18. With specs and info to come before then. Still looking like November/December for ordered vehicles, since allocations are bound to hit lots in September/October, and ordered vehicles to follow. So they don't seem too behind. I myself plan to wait until around August/September and put my order in with a dealer willing to not charge more than $1,000 over invoice, then wait my 12 weeks and walk away happy with my Raptor once delivered. Should be exciting!

Very comprehensive, thanks. Exciting indeed if your experience reflects your summation here. Keep us posted! My timeline is roughly the same as yours but I'm going to wait to see how some do when the order banks open and deals are starting to happen...

 

[Pacific Wheel]

You guys will be very impressed with this EB, its really moves. Havent raced them against each other but they gotta be very close as far as seat of the pants feel. Gen2 is lighter & has more power than Gen 1, plus the 10 speed.

How is the 10 speed on a daily commute? Have you driven the new Chevy 1500 8-Speed? IMO the Chevy shifts way too much and can never make up it's mind at 40-60 cruising speeds. I hoping they don't have that similarity. Maybe 6-7 super aggressive yet well spaced gears and 3-4 overdrives? lol

 

[RaptorCoastie]

Maybe 6-7 super aggressive yet well spaced gears and 3-4 overdrives? lol

It's already been shown. 3 overdrive gears, and 1 reverse gear. So you have 6 regular gears.

 

[bstoner59]

The truck is an allocated truck so you can't order one unless the dealer has an allocation. But don't take my word for it. Everyone will find out on 7/18 when order banks open up.

That's not true. The last gen was allocated as well. If you the dealer had a "customer order" with a copy of a DL Ford would process the order in addition to their allocation.

 

[RaptorCoastie]

That's not true. The last gen was allocated as well. If you the dealer had a "customer order" with a copy of a DL Ford would process the order in addition to their allocation.

Bstoner is correct. And Raptor911 is incorrect. Again, as stated above. Customer ordered vehicles HAVE NO effect on allocations the dealer places. They are always in addition to any allocation vehicles the dealership orders from Ford.

 

[Raptor911]

I ordered my truck from a dealer that sold about about 60+ trucks to members on this forum. I knew the salesman well. This dealer had a list of prospective buyers. When their regional rep called and told them they had an allocation (at this point I have no idea what this term means) and thus they could place an order. The dealer would then call the 1st person on their list and say you are up. That person would then place a special order. And this is how they sold the Raptor.

BTW .. this dealer NEVER ordered a Raptor for dealer stock. All orders were special orders. I asked the salesman why just not special order a raptor for everyone on the list? His reply was we can't. We can only place an order when we have been given an allocation.

 

[solsurfr]

I ordered my truck from a dealer that sold about about 60+ trucks to members on this forum. I knew the salesman well. This dealer had a list of prospective buyers. When their regional rep called and told them they had a allocation (at this point I no idea what this term means) and thus they could place an order. The dealer would then call the 1st person on their list and say your are up. That person would then place a special order. And this is how they sold the Raptor.

BTW .. this dealer NEVER ordered a Raptor for dealer stock. All orders were special orders. I asked the salesman why just not special order a raptor for everyone on the list? His reply was we can't. We can only place an order when we have been allocation.

So "allocation" is not dealer stock but special orders or both?

 

[Addictive Desert Designs]

How is the 10 speed on a daily commute? Have you driven the new Chevy 1500 8-Speed? IMO the Chevy shifts way too much and can never make up it's mind at 40-60 cruising speeds. I hoping they don't have that similarity. Maybe 6-7 super aggressive yet well spaced gears and 3-4 overdrives? lol

Having 10 speeds yes it shifts a lot, but its seamless. Havent driven a 8speed chevy to compare it to.

 

[SilverBolt]

Having 10 speeds yes it shifts a lot, but its seamless. Havent driven a 8speed chevy to compare it to.

Any notable lag or delay in down shifting?

 

[ZaneMasterX]

Any notable lag or delay in down shifting?

I know the same 10 speed thats in the new Camero shifts up and down just as fast if not faster than Porsche's PDK gearbox. Of coarse the programming and ratios will be different in the Raptor but at least we know its capable of being lightening quick.