Raptor is terrible!

[hotcorner17]

The transmission is everything except a joke , may be one of the best whit the german ZF8, so, strange you say that . Otherwise, some of your points are may be not false but remember that it's not a Mercedes , it's an utilty truck, of course a luxurious one , but a truck...

To me, the transmission wonders and I notice it more than other autos. Never quite in the right gear or very smooth. Maybe its programming. Reminds of the early smg transmission, just a bit clunky for an auto. Put in a manual option and we would all be happy!

 

[FordTechOne]

You can minimize some of the items if you want. Some are gripes or maybe just relevant to my me. Regardless, having cam phaser replaced twice and a cam solenoid is not a ridiculous complaint. That is weeks in the shop.

Your complaints are ridiculous; it’s not about “minimizing” anything, it’s about calling you on your BS. You’re posting made up parts and claiming they failed.

Feel free to go elsewhere, nobody forcing you to respond. Go on pretending it is the world's greatest truck.

I’d suggest you go elsewhere and making troll posts with BS complaints. Get a life. Never said it’s the worlds greatest truck, but you’re complaints are neither legitimate nor fact based. Better go have more of those solenoid sensors replaced!!

 

[hotcorner17]

Your complaints are ridiculous; it’s not about “minimizing” anything, it’s about calling you on your BS. You’re posting made up parts and claiming they failed.

I’d suggest you go elsewhere and making troll posts with BS complaints. Get a life. Never said it’s the worlds greatest truck, but you’re complaints are neither legitimate nor fact based. Better go have more of those solenoid sensors replaced!!

I had an incorrect description of ONE item of 20. That is the cam solenoid wire and cam position sensor not a solenoid position sensor. Nothing made up. It is a logical fallacy to claim the entire post is BS because of a factual error in a single description but nice try anyways. Go back to debate 101. Let me update my post to your liking. Nothing here is made up or false claim.

ACTUAL REPAIRS UNDER WARRANTY
1. Cam phaser repair #1
2. Cam phaser solenoid replacement
3. Cam phaser repair #2
4. Sunroof replacement
5. Rear camera failure
6. Horn went out.
7. Noisy front hub, replaced
8. CAM SOLENOID WIRE AND CAM POSITION SENSOR
9. Rear seatbelt mechanism failure, replaced

THE FOLLOWING ARE PERSONAL COMPLAINTS AND YMMV

10. Rear door handle falling off
11. Front interior door panel loose
12. Gray paint trim chipping everywhere. Also generally poor quality/coverage trim paint on interio
13. Aluminum body is basically a soda can. Dont sneeze on it or it dents. Poor quality exterior paint.
14. Terrible interior insulation. Loud road noise in comparison to Trx
15. Horrible rear a/c circulation. Rear passengers always complain
16. The transmission is a joke.
17. Door weather stripping falling off
18. Glove box doesn't close properly
19. Stupid but annoying, the radio changes sources randomly. So sometimes when I start it will be on am or fm even though I always leave it on xm
20. Infotainment unit has frozen about 2 dozen times when driving. Have to do the force restart.
21. One more. The dealership experience.

 

[FordTechOne]

I had incorrect description on ONE item of 20. That is the cam solenoid wire and cam position sensor not a solenoid position sensor. Nothing made up. It is a logical fallacy to claim the entire post is BS because of a factual error in a single description but nice try anyways. Go back to debate 101. Let me update my post to your liking. Nothing here is made up or false claim.

You lose all credibility when you go on a rant and claim to have had a component replaced that doesn't even exist.

ACTUAL REPAIRS UNDER WARRANTY
1. Cam phaser repair #1
2. Cam phaser solenoid replacement
3. Cam phaser repair #2
4. Sunroof replacement
5. Rear camera failure
6. Horn went out.
7. Noisy front hub, replaced
8. CAM SOLENOID WIRE AND CAM POSITION SENSOR
9. Rear seatbelt mechanism failure, replaced

Cam phaser rattle was a known issue. Now addressed with a recall and TSB. I highly doubt the entire sunroof required replacement; there is a TSB for replacing the brackets. None of the other issues are common, and "Cam phaser solenoid, cam solenoid wire, and clam position sensor" point at a clear misdiagnosis.

THE FOLLOWING ARE PERSONAL COMPLAINTS AND YMMV

10. Rear door handle falling off
11. Front interior door panel loose
12. Gray paint trim chipping everywhere. Also generally poor quality/coverage trim paint on interio
13. Aluminum body is basically a soda can. Dont sneeze on it or it dents. Poor quality exterior paint.
14. Terrible interior insulation. Loud road noise in comparison to Trx
15. Horrible rear a/c circulation. Rear passengers always complain
16. The transmission is a joke.
17. Door weather stripping falling off
18. Glove box doesn't close properly
19. Stupid but annoying, the radio changes sources randomly. So sometimes when I start it will be on am or fm even though I always leave it on xm
20. Infotainment unit has frozen about 2 dozen times when driving. Have to do the force restart.
21. One more. The dealership experience.

Door handles and interior door panels don't just fall off. That's called damage. Take personal accountability instead if blaming the vehicle. Same goes for the gray painted trim. Mine is perfect after 2 1/2 years, no chipping or quality issues. They're all made the same, which goes right to damage caused by you. Your claim that the body panels dent easily goes against the fact that the panels are thicker and more dent resistant than steel. "Personal complaints" are irrelevant when they conflict with the facts.

 

[hotcorner17]

You lose all credibility when you go on a rant and claim to have had a component replaced that doesn't even exist.


Cam phaser rattle was a known issue. Now addressed with a recall and TSB. I highly doubt the entire sunroof required replacement; there is a TSB for replacing the brackets. None of the other issues are common, and "Cam phaser solenoid, cam solenoid wire, and clam position sensor" point at a clear misdiagnosis.

Door handles and interior door panels don't just fall off. That's called damage. Take personal accountability instead if blaming the vehicle. Same goes for the gray painted trim. Mine is perfect after 2 1/2 years, no chipping or quality issues. They're all made the same, which goes right to damage caused by you. Your claim that the body panels dent easily goes against the fact that the panels are thicker and more dent resistant than steel. "Personal complaints" are irrelevant when they conflict with the facts.

It appears YOU have no idea what you are talking about. The cam phasers can fail not just rattle. My cam phasers were replaced twice. Not just for rattle but failure resulting in timing issue and check engine light. This was not just the tsb for updated programming to help with the rattle. The phasers are also driven by a solenoid which failed separately. I will also add if it was a misdiagnosis it was by Ford who was called consulted by dealer after the first failure.

I don't care if you believe me about the sunroof. They replaced it, maybe it was before the tsb or maybe they just wanted to do extra work. Didn't cost me.

You keep perseverating your claim aluminum is stronger. Agree to disagree. Factually, steel is a stronger metal and that is my experience. I daily the Raptor in a mix of 3 other cars, none of them have issues with trim paint or loose door panels.

 

[Oldfart]

You're not allowed to talk all high and mighty about your Volvo and not include a pic. Are you new around here?

I found some of my pics!!! idrive has been a giant pain in the a ss for backup. Everything is all scrambled up when I downloaded my backed up files. At least I found most of my pictures finally.

 

[greatone99]

It appears YOU have no idea what you are talking about. The cam phasers can fail not just rattle. My cam phasers were replaced twice. Not just for rattle but failure resulting in timing issue and check engine light. This was not just the tsb for updated programming to help with the rattle. The phasers are also driven by a solenoid which failed separately. I will also add if it was a misdiagnosis it was by Ford who was called consulted by dealer after the first failure.

I don't care if you believe me about the sunroof. They replaced it, maybe it was before the tsb or maybe they just wanted to do extra work. Didn't cost me.

You keep perseverating your claim aluminum is stronger. Agree to disagree. Factually, steel is a stronger metal and that is my experience. I daily the Raptor in a mix of 3 other cars, none of them have issues with trim paint or loose door panels.

did your truck fall off a mountain ? ive had none of these issues . and I would bet my house ,ford tech 1 knows a million times more about these trucks than u do . and he's right the aluminum is far stronger than the steel .that comment alone tells me everything .

 

[CoronaRaptor]

I found some of my pics!!! idrive has been a giant pain in the a ss for backup. Everything is all scrambled up when I downloaded my backed up files. At least I found most of my pictures finally.

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Looks to be in good shape. Nice car for an old fart, lol.

 

[Oldfart]

Looks to be in good shape. Nice car for an old fart, lol.

Thanks, it's still tight and rattle free like it was when I bought it. I'm really impressed/happy with it.

 

[FordTechOne]

It appears YOU have no idea what you are talking about. The cam phasers can fail not just rattle. My cam phasers were replaced twice. Not just for rattle but failure resulting in timing issue and check engine light. This was not just the tsb for updated programming to help with the rattle. The phasers are also driven by a solenoid which failed separately.

So now you’re an expert on VCT operation and diagnosis. Got it. First off, the VCT solenoids don’t “drive” the phasers. They are oil control valves that are PWM by the PCM. Under certain circumstances it is possible for debris (manufacturing or maintenance related) to cause the VCT solenoids to stick, resulting in Service Engine light with timing related DTCs. A service message was released instructing the dealer to cycle the solenoids with IDS/FDRS to clear the debris and resolve the issue. In instances where the debris cannot be cleared, the affected solenoid should be replaced. Replacing the phasers will not resolve the issue.

If what you're claiming is true, it's pretty clear that the dealer misdiagnosed the DTCs and replaced the phasers, then threw the CMP sensor at it, and finally replaced the VCT solenoid and resolved the issue. Hence your claimed list of parts.

I don't care if you believe me about the sunroof. They replaced it, maybe it was before the tsb or maybe they just wanted to do extra work. Didn't cost me.

You keep perseverating your claim aluminum is stronger. Agree to disagree. Factually, steel is a stronger metal and that is my experience. I daily the Raptor in a mix of 3 other cars, none of them have issues with trim paint or loose door panels.

What was the point of creating this thread again? Just to complain and look for sympathy?