Question for the guys with Prochargers

[HookEm]

Whipple and SVT have confirmed they'll be releasing a kit in about 90 days. If you guys had the choice, would you still go with the Procharger or wait for the Whipple/SVT kit?

My truck should arrive at the dealer within a couple of weeks and I'm all set up for the Procharger install, but now I'm thinking about waiting for the Whipple. Any thoughts?

Also, I'd be interested in hearing about any challenges, problems, pros & cons you have with the Procharger. Some specific questions I have:

1. Any problems getting it tuned? Any problems getting the tune to work with offroad mode, tow/haul mode, traction control, etc? Did you have to modify the Procharger canned tune, and if so, what mods were required?(btw... my truck will have stock exhaust, at least for the time being)

2. Do you feel like low end torque changed, for better or worse, with the Procharger kit?

3. Does the Procharger canned tune eliminate the speed limiter and allow higher engine RPM? What are the maxes for both on your trucks?

4. Any significant change in gas mileage since the install (under normal driving conditions)?

5. Any concerns with the longivity/reliability of the Procharger?

Thanks and look forward to the feedback...

ps... just for fun, here's the best pic I've seen so far...guy's got to be haulin ass to get that much air

 

[BIRDMAN]

there's some guys here with the procharger setup. stay tuned for them to chime in. that IS a sick picture by the way lol.

 

[iceman302]

That looks like my avatar from a different angle.

I would wait for the Whipple/SVT blower. IMO, Roots type blowers are superior... especially in a truck. They build better low end torque and ususally incorporate a bypass valve so they typically don't cost you any noticeable fuel economy. Plus, if it comes with an SVT tune, you can bet it'll be spot on in every mode.

 

[SilverBolt]

NOt a Procharger owner. My choice on a 6000lb truck will be the Whipple. I am not real concerned with peak numbers I want to see the big torque and power in the lower RPM range. A centrifical blower does not produce the power down low as a twin screw does. The don't lag like a turbo but still lag compared to a twin screw positive displacement blower. The 2.3L Whipple on my 5.4 Lightning produced 600whp/700wtq on pump gas and a mild tune. That was plenty crazy on the street.

 

[SOCOMech]

Whipple allllllllllllllllllll day long.

 

[Scottysspeedshop]

My Turn,I have had no problems with my procharger at all 4500 miles on the clock.My truck makes 520 rwhp and 500 tq runs the QM in 13.2 and will go 120 mph + . As for fule milage I have been getting around 13.1 hwy and 10 city.As for the motor living I have talked to one of ford development personal and was told the motor and trans can handle that kind of HP no problem.I have also been advised to change the driveshaft out to a 2 peace unit which is what ford used in their Raptor that won the Baja 1000.As for the whipple I believe they are good blowers but can suffer from heat soak.I know on my Saleen Speedster I have a Kenney Bell 2.8 Mammoth and makes 800 + hp the blower gets extreamly hot after prolonged use.Yes it makes massive TQ down low put would be concerned about the heat soak problem. they are great for !/4 blast but not so good for prolonged running like say in the desert.All in all I am happy with the way my truck runs and drives the other thing that I am addressing is the brakes they at the very least need braided lines and better pads for this kind of HP.

 

[trolls56]

That looks like my avatar from a different angle.

I would wait for the Whipple/SVT blower. IMO, Roots type blowers are superior... especially in a truck. They build better low end torque and ususally incorporate a bypass valve so they typically don't cost you any noticeable fuel economy. Plus, if it comes with an SVT tune, you can bet it'll be spot on in every mode.

Whipples aren't roots blowers. Root blowers are way less efficient than a centrifugal blower. They also have a bypass/blow off valves. All supercharger/turbos do. If they didn't you would damage the compress wheel/blades when you got off the gas. Roots blower are normally better off the line but loose to a centrifugal on the top end. Whipples are twin screw blowers and they normally get the best of both. They are positive displacement blowers just like a roots and do get heat soaked. If you are going to use your truck more on road and around town Whipple is probably the way to go. I think either one is going to be alot of fun.

 

[Scottysspeedshop]

Well put.

 

[SilverBolt]

Trolls nailed it. The Whipple will have a charge cooler in the intake manifold which will help with heat soak but not eliminate it. If you are hot lapping at the trach using max boost or long sustained runs under high boost it will get heat soak and lose some performance. All forced induction have short comings.

 

[iceman302]

Whipples aren't roots blowers. Root blowers are way less efficient than a centrifugal blower. They also have a bypass/blow off valves. All supercharger/turbos do. If they didn't you would damage the compress wheel/blades when you got off the gas. Roots blower are normally better off the line but loose to a centrifugal on the top end. Whipples are twin screw blowers and they normally get the best of both. They are positive displacement blowers just like a roots and do get heat soaked. If you are going to use your truck more on road and around town Whipple is probably the way to go. I think either one is going to be alot of fun.

I use the term "Roots" loosely, referring to any positive displacement type blower. They all use lobes to compress the air and produce boost.