New Raptor at Dealership with 44 miles

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Crunchtime2k

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Hi All,
Looking at purchasing a new 2020 Raptor that hasn’t been test driven. Found one with my build spec and the Dealership guarantees the current 44 miles arrived from the port with this milage and has not been test driven. In my search, I’ve found Raptors with a range of 7-12 miles that arrived from the port without being test driven. I’m fairly certain the one with 44 miles has been test driven.

When I was searching for my Porsche GT3RS, the dealership was able to read the ”over revs” from the on board computer. Anyone on this forum have first hand knowledge if it’s possible to obtain similar information from the Raptor onboard computer? I’m not technically savvy, but I would think high RPM revs or even RPM high revs before the engine was at operating temperature, might be able to get these reports.

feedback would be appreciated.
I would run away from you as a customer
 
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I would run away from you as a customer
My guess is, what ever business you’re in, you take the easy route and walk away from challenges...and loose customers as a result, me, I accept clients that require a bit more finesse, which has help me build my book of business with clients and success in my industry! This is how I was able to retire very comfortably at the age of 53, you?
 

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The Raptor that I was looking at initially wouldn’t start on the lot - dead battery. I got impatient with the sales guy when he tried to start it with a charger.

I asked him to look at a similar specced truck, same as the dead one plus the CF interior bits.
I bought that one.

Original one had less mileage but had the plastic oil pan and was in the defective phaser build range. Mine might have had 20 miles on it, don’t remember exactly. Not really an issue for me.
 

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An acquaintance of mine who owns a very large Acura dealership once told me (yeah, I know, easy for him to say) that any car or truck with under 100 miles is considered new. I've owned so many vehicles over the past 10 years it's hard for me to recall, but I do know seeing 10, 20, 30 or even 50 miles on a new vehicle never bothered me. I pile the miles on so quickly what's the difference? I also don't give a hoot about the BS in the manual about break-in.

I'm on my 6th Porsche since 2015 (not bragging, just stating fact) and I've never worried about break-in. It's not even in the manual in Germany. It's nothing but a bunch of US lawyers being overprotective and trying to cover every base.

My 2019 Raptor already has 21k miles in the first year. 6500 mile round trip to Utah helped, as did 2,000 to Nova Scotia.

Drive it like you stole it right out of the dealer's lot is my motto. And I'm sticking to it.

Anyone want to buy my gently used Raptor? :lol:
 

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What is r Required break on the raptor , BMW M cars require low revs for the first 1200 miles and then a complete oil change.

don’t worry it wasn’t test driven. The service guys all just took a turn on her!
 
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Honestly Im massive car guy - that being my only real vice (aside from surfing and golf) and I am baffled anyone would worry about 44miles on a new car. New automobiles are designed to run over 100,000 miles and all come with multi year warranty so how would 30-40 minutes of driving affect anything?

I could understand if it had 500miles having questions - but under 50?

I will say that all cars and trucks will get miles before delivery. I’ve owned a few new Ferrari’s and they all came with around 20-30 miles as they all get driven on the track in Italy before they ship. Then add all the transport, customs, shop delivery and detail which all adds miles. It doesn’t mean the car isn’t new? I guess I’m just a bit confused????
 
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Thought I’d update you all. Today, my ordered Raptor arrived at the dealership and only 8.1 miles! Picking it up tomorrow and driving directly to the Paint Film Protection guy and then off for a full paint correction and ceramic coating. Then the mods begin...

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Race engines, built to exacting tolerances and clearances can require a specific break in. Too much heat, too soon and thermal expansion can cause metal on metal friction, galling or other damage between internal working surfaces. Yes, the Germans like to manufacture to more precise standards, but even these are production engines, not purpose built race engines, designed to last only a handful of miles or hours.

Although the same break in theories apply, production engines are engineered with higher reliability in mind within the engines overall parameters, which translates to less stress on components and more clearances between some internals. With all the electronic management on todays vehicles, I'd have to say that the software may not actually record the maximum RPM for later retrieval, but would at least limit RPM's to a maximum, that was engineered to satisfy those overall parameters. You may not be happy that your truck has more miles or rev'd to the max, but I doubt either of those things would cause undo damage or a reduced lifespan.

Good points here. The machining done today on factory engines is down to a science. Compared to years ago there is little break in required. I’m a little OCD, Paranoid or whatever you want to call it and would start slow and vary speed until I have a few miles on the motor. But that most likely means nothing today. In our case we are driving a Ford not an MB. And there is no long break in instructions included.

With race motors, except for taking a few test passes or laps if your lucky to. They are built to run out of the box. I remember the days of having to break in cams. Roller’s took care of that. The guys that dropped a motor in and ran it balls to the wall and never looked back, tended to run the fastest and have less problems in the end lol

Anyway that’s a winded response. Found my truck a couple of days after it landed at the dealer with about 18-20 miles on it and after a test drive and finally taking it off the lot it had 32 miles.

And I got out of the test drive doubting the truck. Brakes obviously not broken in felt so so at best, Throttle response felt lagging, tires at least 45psi. And truck was bouncing all over. But I knew there was more to these trucks and still bought it. Some adjustments and miles down the road I am loving it.

I can see why a couple of Ferrari and Porsche enthusiasts are now Raptor people. They just like to get in there machines and drive. Kind of the Raptor motto. This truck can take you most anywhere and won’t complain.
 
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My guess is, what ever business you’re in, you take the easy route and walk away from challenges...and loose customers as a result, me, I accept clients that require a bit more finesse, which has help me build my book of business with clients and success in my industry! This is how I was able to retire very comfortably at the age of 53, you?

Todd
you asked for it.
you said: " feedback would be appreciated."
 
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