Badgertits
FRF Addict
I own a Terminator Mustang. No GM product has ever shown me it's taillights. In fact, the only thing that has ever gotten out on me at the drag strip (that wasn't a big block 9 sec drag car) was a Miata with a S/C 5.0L engine. That ****** out a bus length on me.
That particular Ford V8 had the upper hand for at least five years. If you are honest, you will recall that the 03/04 Cobra Mustangs, typically with a 2.93 upper pulley swap, regularly smacked the shit out of any GM product on the market starting in early 2002, including every variant of Corvette. Twin screw blower swapped Cobras flat out crushed them. 3 years later, the $80K C6 Z06 was still the only thing GM made that could keep up with it. 6 years later, the ZR1 finally dethroned it by finally supercharging their V8 the same way, albeit with a $100K price tag.
Pretty much every manufacturer has now gone with the PD blower on top of a V8 for anything that needs to make big power. ZR1, Hellcats, GT500s... Who started that? Ford. They started it with the 1999 F150 Lightning, which also smoked GM products for years on end. GM still hasn't made a full sized truck that can keep up with a 20 year old Lightning.
"But, but- it's supercharged. If mine was superchraged, then..." Yeah, but it's not, is it?
You clearly have selective memory.
You - have selective reading skills then lol - you saw the (N/A) caveat dropped in that statement right? ;-) The termi cobra motor was/is my favorite iteration of the Ford modular V8 - was same in the Lightning right? That's why I said NATURALLY ASPIRATED - that blown 4.6 w/ the forged guts & stout bottom end aint the same as their standard offerings.....but, stock for stock it was never beating a C5 Z06 @ the strip or the track. Most guys were lucky to get low 13's high 12's stock w/ the termi's, adding DR's getting them into low 12's. I shouldn't need to mention, but ALOT of gearheads are aware of the bone stock C5Z times going sub 12 (stock tires & shifter even) & bone stock C6Z's dipping into the lowest 11's/highest 10's. Confirmed. On vid. Slips. Check out Ranger - helluva driver! Now sure once you slap tires, up the boost/tune those termi cobras its a whole different ball game - but lugging around nearly 1000 lbs over a C5Z they need the extra work to negate the weight factor. So if you don't wanna go down the road of "well if the C5Z had a blower forget about it" convo - the fact is back then same as now, no termi cobras were beating C5Z's (let alone C6Z's jesus christ man) down the strip or esp. around a race track - didn't take the C6 ZR1 to "beat" that version of the mustang nor is it even a fair comparison. I have a H/C/I + shifter/built diff/suspension mods on my own C5Z - but even when it was closer to stock just intake/tune I was keeping up w/ a tuned/pulleyed 04 cobra my buddy had, car had the mystichrome paint - sick ride no doubt, but 3900 lbs vs 3080 lbs - woof! Tough to overcome that - from the get go the C5Z is moving 25% less mass - takes +120hp for the Cobra to even that up, which means modifying....& we all know all bets are off once you go down that road. Pulley swap on cobra? I'll raise you a ram air CAI, LT headers, & tune on the C5Z etc etc
For the record, mine WILL be supercharged too in the spring. And I don't hate all Ford stuff - hence why I'm in a Raptor!!! I just don't think they've made a V8 I give a shit about since the exact terminator blown 4.6 you correctly mention - although I WAS very hopeful w/ the voodoo 5.2, it was even a car I considered "swapping" out for my C5Z before putting any more $$$/mods into it (also cross shopped w/ CPO BMW M2, Civic SI, Lexus RCf, & camaro 1LE) - I LOVED the sound of it, loved the high strung high revving feel of it, great balance & handling etc. - BUT as I did my research I came to the conclusion just wasn't as sturdy/reliable as the GM V8's I was already used to & didn't want to have to start learning how to tinker w/ a new engine design since I like doing some of my own mods when possible. You're not going to tell me that engine is as reliable as an LT1 right?
And for the record....sadly actually b/c I loved the design/idea of it.....GM HAS made trucks faster than a stock Lightning, & they aren't "sport" models - I'm talking crew cab std bed loaded up SLTs/Denalis w/ the 6.2, guys are running 13.6-13.8 STOCK - not even defeating the 98 mph governor so that's the "trap" & they probably have a little more in em. Add intake/headers/tune & those 3 ton land yachts do high 12's - check it out for yourself on youtube. I think the fastest version of any truck out there would be if you could get the following combo from either ford or GM:
Ford - drop the HO 3.5 in regular or SCAB w/ tow package/deepest gears available in lowest trim possible
GM - dropping the 6.2 in their base regular or extended cab w/ tow package AND E85 capable (the 5.3 sucking E85 comes up to 90% the power of the 6.2 on factory ecu mapping btw)
Lastly - my buddy w/ the termi cobra liked it so much after selling he decided to make his own "Maraudernator" - put a cobra blower on it, headers, 4.10s, intake etc. w/ some other stuff, sending it down to GA for a stickshift conversion kit. Cool.