Long Travel

[blueherron96]

Not long travel, just 14" stock width:
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Does this setup feel pretty balanced with the 18" shocks in the rear? I just picked up a bed cage and 16" shocks and was wanting to go with a stock width kit and secondary bypasses with gen 2 FRS coilovers. Wondering if it won't be enough to keep up with the rear. A wider mid travel kit would be nice but the trails around here are already tight being stock width.

 

[2012SCSVT]

Does this setup feel pretty balanced with the 18" shocks in the rear? I just picked up a bed cage and 16" shocks and was wanting to go with a stock width kit and secondary bypasses with gen 2 FRS coilovers. Wondering if it won't be enough to keep up with the rear. A wider mid travel kit would be nice but the trails around here are already tight being stock width.

A good stock width front will go just as fast as a good long travel front if both trucks have good rear leaf set ups.

Like it's posted in this thread, if you do links, or go to an extremely good leaf setup you will start to go at a speed that the long travel will be more beneficial.

There are plenty of stock width trucks with a secondary shock up front that work awesome, but they are more work. So it depends how much tuning and dicking around you want to do.

If you are doing a secondary shock, I dont recommend paying the price for the FRS shocks. Now, if you are only running one shock, it would be worth it. But, I think they have less shaft travel than oem 2 g ones, I think it's 7.5 vs 8" shaft travel. You will end up with about 12-12.5" of travel. For the oem 2g shocks I have to get 14" of travel, I ened up making a offset coaxial spring mount for my top hats, ditched the foam bump stops, put in a buch of compression shiming in them for bump, swaped the top out spacer from 1" to 3/8" one, pulled all the bypass tube valveing so they have no damping except in the bump and rebound zone (3.5 secondary handles that). Anyway I ened up with a coil carrier that has a bump/catch zone. They have 8.625" of shaft travel w/ 1.63 motion ratio.

 

[blueherron96]

A good stock width front will go just as fast as a good long travel front if both trucks have good rear leaf set ups.

Like it's posted in this thread, if you do links, or go to an extremely good leaf setup you will start to go at a speed that the long travel will be more beneficial.

There are plenty of stock width trucks with a secondary shock up front that work awesome, but they are more work. So it depends how much tuning and dicking around you want to do.

If you are doing a secondary shock, I dont recommend paying the price for the FRS shocks. Now, if you are only running one shock, it would be worth it. But, I think they have less shaft travel than oem 2 g ones, I think it's 7.5 vs 8" shaft travel. You will end up with about 12-12.5" of travel. For the oem 2g shocks I have to get 14" of travel, I ened up making a offset coaxial spring mount for my top hats, ditched the foam bump stops, put in a buch of compression shiming in them for bump, swaped the top out spacer from 1" to 3/8" one, pulled all the bypass tube valveing so they have no damping except in the bump and rebound zone (3.5 secondary handles that). Anyway I ened up with a coil carrier that has a bump/catch zone. They have 8.625" of shaft travel w/ 1.63 motion ratio.


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That's an interesting setup. Never thought about doing something like that.

 

[SilverGen1]

That's an interesting setup. Never thought about doing something like that.

You should check out Midwest Offroad Expedition if you're in Michigan!! Great group of people, and they put on great events!! I just did their Wendigo Watch event, and it was AMAZING!!!! Or if you ever want to hit the dunes, let me know!!!

 

[TomDirt]

Always had a panhard bar for centering the axle, the air shocks are what they ended up ditching then added the single upper link.

The air shock design was something I didn't agree with, but I understand it was used because it was a way to avoid using an upper link; (which generally meant relocating the fuel tank). But the updated design using an upper link running straight forward has been proven.

 

[blueherron96]

You should check out Midwest Offroad Expedition if you're in Michigan!! Great group of people, and they put on great events!! I just did their Wendigo Watch event, and it was AMAZING!!!! Or if you ever want to hit the dunes, let me know!!!

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For sure man! I usually hit the dunes several times a year with the Midwest Raptor Junkies. I try to avoid them in the summer. Too much chaos and stupidity for me. Planning on being there opening weekend and for the Raptor Junkies Shakedown event. Going to try to do MOE's coast to coast run this year as well. I'm always up for an impromptu trail run up north.

 

[SilverGen1]

For sure man! I usually hit the dunes several times a year with the Midwest Raptor Junkies. I try to avoid them in the summer. Too much chaos and stupidity for me. Planning on being there opening weekend and for the Raptor Junkies Shakedown event. Going to try to do MOE's coast to coast run this year as well. I'm always up for an impromptu trail run up north.
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Yes, I ended up at the shakedown by accident one time! I had no clue about the community around Raptor's and off-roading in general, just total coincidence. I definitely will try to make opening weekend this year too! We had a couple of the RJ guys at Wendigo Watch this year, and it seemed like they enjoyed it. Definitely come out to coast to coast if you can, great event!