I've Owned my Raptor for 2 Months, It's been at the dealer for Most of it

[Old-Raptor-guy]

Just heard back from the dealer. They found metal in the oil pan and think that the new oil pump may be defective. They told me they did a full inspection and found no metal prior to replacing the pump. They're working with ford on getting me a new engine.

Well in the end that won't be a bad deal at all.

 

[BigBlue20]

Unless you know the previous owner and the history, this is good advice. Every problem truck gets traded in. Every one. The solid trucks? Lots do get traded, but I'm always hesitant to trade in a stellar vehicle for a brand-new crap shoot. And when do I decide to sell a good one, there's often someone in my circle who knows someone who's looking. So many of the good trucks are kept or sold through friends. Problem vehicles? Let the dealer deal with it. Your odds of getting a solid vehicle buying used from a dealer are lower than if you buy new. Much lower.

Agree totally! In addition to the above scenario, the number of problems that are occurring on new trucks is also the main reason that I’m not interested in replacing my 2020 which has been problem free. And I know I am not the only person to feel like that. So, the likelihood of buying a good used “anything” is pretty unlikely. This makes the motor pool of used vehicles a problem that keep getting passed around unsuspecting new owners. Add the fact that even used Raptors are not cheap and it’s easy to see why there is a rather large percentage disgruntled buyers. Even the old axiom of “buyer beware” doesn’t make this an easy pill to swallow.

 

[leonardopessoa]

“Blue Certified” means nothing other than a limited warranty; most dealers just pencil whip the inspection and put it on the lot. Even if they are aware of a potential issue they may let it go so that the Ford warranty has to pay to fix it later instead of it coming out if their used car budget.

There was zero reason to replace the oil pump; all they needed to do was test it with a manual gauge and they would have seen it was within spec.

If they’ve went through all the circuitry and connectors, I’m with @Old-Raptor-guy that it’s likely a repeat faulty sensor. You may want to also verify that they replaced the oil pressure sensor and not the oil pump control solenoid, that would be the extremely stupid but you never know.

THIS.

Blue Certified means JACKSHIT and if you call Ford and ask "what the hell", they will tell you flat out that dealerships are like franchises - each run their own - and they would happily report the program issue to the responsible sector (like, "sorry, your complaint has been noted"). No accountability whatsoever.

Other than that, good luck! Also fell for the Blue Certified trap and now and Ford has: replaced (under warranty, though, got extra 6 years) rear shocks, disassembled whole sound system just for myself to figure out they were missing a fuse to get my TCM working, replaced 4x4 actuator (will likely need a new one again, still not working), auto pilot collision alert going off...

 

[pilot545]

Just going to put this out there. This is my story. I deal with this daily and it is something I have had to learn the hard way AND something I try and get my guys to understand, it is harder than you think.

The oil pump was probably replaced out of desperation.

When you properly diagnose a problem and then the problem is not resolved I believe it is human nature to have an emotional response.

Imagine for a moment an light goes out in your kitchen, you grab a new bulb out of the garage and install it. You flip the switch on and it still does not come on. Do you instantly try another bulb or do you suspect something else????

99% of the time humans suspect something else.

The tech had a emotional response to a logical problem. It wasn't done out of malice or ill intent, it was done out of desperation and an attempt to get you back on the road.

I have to beat into my guys heads that each time you diag, you start at the beginning. Don't assume anything.

Some of my biggest ass kickings have been from defective new parts.

Another weird thing and not to brag but this sort of seems to be unique (almost a super power) that I can look back at a situation and study it, evaluate it and figure out the missteps. Until I had employees I didn't think much of it, I thought everyone did it. but let me tell you, it is not very common at all.

I’m retired USAF pilot and we ALWAYS debrief every mission to understand what happened, and where we can improve, and what mistakes were made. This has carried over into my civilian life. You are absolutely correct, not many people will do a post-incident analysis so they can fully understand what happened and keep that knowledge for the future. It’s very important to understand the chain of events and what leads to what.

 

[WishIWasARaptor]

Being a turbo car guy for the last 18 years, I've only seen O2 sensors go out when a vehicle is very high mileage or if the turbo is leaking at the oil seal which causes them to clog up with oil and not read correctly. Did they tell you what the state of the O2 sensor was when they took it out? Was it oil-caked?

A leaking Oil Seal in the Turbo or a leaking Turbo Oil return line could explain the low oil pressure. The only other suggestion would be oil pickup in the pan. If that's the case something would have had to clog it up.

 

[BYKR GUY]

I need advice. I bought my 2018 GEN 2 raptor around August 10th of this year. This was a "blue certified" vehicle from a dealer with 86,000 miles. After 2 weeks I got my first check engine light. This was a faulty oxygen sensor (must've really done a strong pre purchase inspection!) and it was replaced free of charge. This was the least of my issues. Two weeks after the oxygen sensor was replaced, I began getting low oil pressure warnings. I took it right back to the dealer who replaced the oil pressure sensor and gave it back. As I drove off the lot, the oil pressure warning began again. They claimed it was the oil pump and replaced the oil pump as well as the valve cover. Fast forward to last friday (almost A MONTH LATER), I finally got the car back with a new oil pump. Left the lot and in about 20 min after filling the tank with 91, BAM. Low oil pressure. Took the truck straight back to the dealer. It has now been about a month since I've had possession of my truck (and I've owned it for 2 months). Dealer can't seem to figure out what's causing the issue and I'm stuck regretting my purchase. Any advice guys? I'm a first time buyer who finally decided to treat himself with something nice and it has been a terrible experience.

I bought a used 2019 from a Land Rover dealer in Scottsdale about 6 mo. Ago. The only thing that happened to me was the dealer took off the brand new tires that were on it and replaced them with an old pair. One more item , my owners manual says to burn regular not premium .

 

[BYKR GUY]

I bought a used 2019 from a Land Rover dealer in Scottsdale about 6 mo. Ago. The only thing that happened to me was the dealer took off the brand new tires that were on it and replaced them with an old pair. One more item , my owners manual says to burn regular not premium .

I also put a set of cold air intakes on the engine and the SES lite stays on. Now what ?

 

[EricM]

Being a turbo car guy for the last 18 years, I've only seen O2 sensors go out when a vehicle is very high mileage or if the turbo is leaking at the oil seal which causes them to clog up with oil and not read correctly. Did they tell you what the state of the O2 sensor was when they took it out? Was it oil-caked?

A leaking Oil Seal in the Turbo or a leaking Turbo Oil return line could explain the low oil pressure. The only other suggestion would be oil pickup in the pan. If that's the case something would have had to clog it up.

It's not an oil seal.

There were shavings in the oil.

The engine is now scrap.

 

[n8sbroken18raptor]

So update guys, I just got my NEW engine andddddd BAM. Low PRESSURE WARNING!!!!!

What is going on ???

I have a little theory that it going through my head and would like to see what y'all think.

Whenever I drive I like to flip my third aux switch and put on my LED foglights (as seen in my picture). When the dealership test drives my truck thoroughly, they do not do this and the issue never happens for them. As soon as I drive off the lot with this switch on, I get the issue in about 10-20 min. Could it be a faulty wiring situation??

 

[smurfslayer]

Could it be a faulty wiring situation??

have you traced it to see if the wiring is tapping a harness, or if some harness is being... Rubbed the wrong way?