Installed Gen 2 Fox Race Series Coilovers……FINALLY!

[TheButcher]

This is a great point from @BoostCreep. The FRLV shocks would only work on a 35" truck with the single valve. If you have a 37PP or R, then they won't be compatible with the dual valve setup. Looking back now at your first post, I saw that you mentioned you had a 2024, but didn't realize it was an R.

If you're wanting to go down the rabbit hole of +3 Mid-Travel and keep the dual live valve shocks, then my recommendation would be a Foutz kit as both their mid-travel and their +3 kit will work with stock shocks. For extra height, you can add Eibach or Geiser springs on your factory shocks. And the FMI LCAs will also work with any other components you may want to add like limit straps (highly recommend if you're going to be wheeling hard with aftermarket springs), front bumps, and secondary bypasses. The only thing to keep in mind is that FMI LCA is NOT compatible with the OEM sway bar so you'd either need to run no sway bar or go with the upgraded FMI sway bar that works with their LCAs.

Great info, thanks. I'm tallying up projected costs this morning and it gets pretty ugly pretty fast going with a mid/long travel set up. While it would be cool to have an R that looks as good as my Gen 2 did I have to start considering the fact that this becomes a $170-$180K truck after suspension, bumpers, wheels, tires, lights, etc.

Cool? Yes. Smart? Ehhh, maybe not so much. I can see a significant depreciation hit over the course of a few years ownership, and I'm averse to losing my a$$ on vehicles. Don't mind paying to play, but throwing good money after bad is not very palatable to me. Then I throw in the consideration that this truck most likely won't fit in most parking garage I frequent, and it becomes less appealing to me. Sounds like I should probably consider sticking with some Geisers or Eibach springs for some modest lift height, and then maybe add the Foutz sway bar. I'm liking the sound of increased handling characteristics. Sticking to stock suspension with some level springs will probably help keep that plush factory ride on the road.

 

[Nick@Apollo-Optics]

This sounds awesome and is tempting, but part of me kinda likes how the Raptor wallows around a bit, it’s part of the experience.

All comes down to personal preference, man. If you want the truck to be a little more stable in the corners, then the sway bar is a solid upgrade and has no impact on ride quality or smoothness. But if you do like feeling the pitch of the truck and body roll when cornering, then best to stay stock.

Great info, thanks. I'm tallying up projected costs this morning and it gets pretty ugly pretty fast going with a mid/long travel set up. While it would be cool to have an R that looks as good as my Gen 2 did I have to start considering the fact that this becomes a $170-$180K truck after suspension, bumpers, wheels, tires, lights, etc.

Cool? Yes. Smart? Ehhh, maybe not so much. I can see a significant depreciation hit over the course of a few years ownership, and I'm averse to losing my a$$ on vehicles. Don't mind paying to play, but throwing good money after bad is not very palatable to me. Then I throw in the consideration that this truck most likely won't fit in most parking garage I frequent, and it becomes less appealing to me. Sounds like I should probably consider sticking with some Geisers or Eibach springs for some modest lift height, and then maybe add the Foutz sway bar. I'm liking the sound of increased handling characteristics. Sticking to stock suspension with some level springs will probably help keep that plush factory ride on the road.

Going +3 gets expensive very quickly. Tallying it up, you'll be in over $200K if you do rear suspension along with glass, bodywork, paint, labor, etc. Hell, my 2023 R purchase price, parts, and labor to put it together is over $180K and we didn't do a +3 LT kit. Full write-up on the truck is coming soon along with full length video.

 

[TheButcher]

All comes down to personal preference, man. If you want the truck to be a little more stable in the corners, then the sway bar is a solid upgrade and has no impact on ride quality or smoothness. But if you do like feeling the pitch of the truck and body roll when cornering, then best to stay stock.



Going +3 gets expensive very quickly. Tallying it up, you'll be in over $200K if you do rear suspension along with glass, bodywork, paint, labor, etc. Hell, my 2023 R purchase price, parts, and labor to put it together is over $180K and we didn't do a +3 LT kit. Full write-up on the truck is coming soon along with full length video.

Very interested to hear the details on your truck. It turned out great from the pictures I’ve seen on IG.

Yeah, I was going to leave the back alone. I want to keep all of my bed space. I’m actually thinking maybe I’ll do glass, eibach springs, and either a 38” Toyo MT or 39” BFG KM3. That might only go up 2-2.5” over stock height so I can fit in the garage and still give a nice widebody look.

 

[hyrepower]

Great info, thanks. I'm tallying up projected costs this morning and it gets pretty ugly pretty fast going with a mid/long travel set up. While it would be cool to have an R that looks as good as my Gen 2 did I have to start considering the fact that this becomes a $170-$180K truck after suspension, bumpers, wheels, tires, lights, etc.

Cool? Yes. Smart? Ehhh, maybe not so much. I can see a significant depreciation hit over the course of a few years ownership, and I'm averse to losing my a$$ on vehicles. Don't mind paying to play, but throwing good money after bad is not very palatable to me. Then I throw in the consideration that this truck most likely won't fit in most parking garage I frequent, and it becomes less appealing to me. Sounds like I should probably consider sticking with some Geisers or Eibach springs for some modest lift height, and then maybe add the Foutz sway bar. I'm liking the sound of increased handling characteristics. Sticking to stock suspension with some level springs will probably help keep that plush factory ride on the road.

Ain’t nothing “plush” about eibach or geiser, lol.

 

[TheButcher]

Ain’t nothing “plush” about eibach or geiser, lol.

That's good to know as well. I kinda worried that would be the case. Sounds like waiting an undetermined amount of time for Fox to come out with the dual valve Race Series is really the best choice in the end.

 

[hyrepower]

That's good to know as well. I kinda worried that would be the case. Sounds like waiting an undetermined amount of time for Fox to come out with the dual valve Race Series is really the best choice in the end.

That’s what all of us who want to do it right have been waiting on. Or someone like king or icon to come out with something, then just disable the live valve, which in opinion, sucks anyhow.

 

[Rednose]

I first installed Camburg 1 1/2 inch collars on my truck, didn’t like how much lift they gave me and was not impressed with how the OEM suspension couldn’t handle the additional pre-load tension of the coil. Definitely didn’t ride as well dampened as I had hoped.

I then installed a set of 1” Eibach springs and they were a vast improvement over the collars, but still left a little to be desired on how they handled down travel, as again, the OEM shocks aren’t tuned for added tension of the Eibachs and the rebound was too fast for my liking.

So I decided to upgrade to the fox race series, coil overs, even though they are not application specific. I can say that these are far better than any of the previous lifts that I had done. Obviously as they are tuned to work with the spring that they have installed on them. I added a little bit of preload based on some of the left I’ve seen from other people doing the same thing, however, they seem to lift my truck a little bit more than some of the other people I have seen online. I only added 1/2 inch a free load to the collar and they actually gave me about 2 inches of lift. I am going to take all the pre-load out of the collar, just like how they came, and that should give me right around 3/4 of an inch to 1 inch of lift over the OEM set up. There is such a night and day difference between the ride of these coil overs, and doing a lift collar or springs that it isn’t even funny. I wouldn’t even waste my time with any other set up. I wish I didn’t waste the time and the money with those cheaper options.

As the truck sits right now, it is at 43 inches in the front, and 42 inches in the rear. It has 37 inch BFGKO2 tires.

Are you running any lift in the rear or is it stock?

 

[BeepsRaptor]

Out the box height is 2"? If not does anyone know how much preload for 2"

Thanks

 

[Johnny@Apollo-Optics]

Out the box height is 2"? If not does anyone know how much preload for 2"

Thanks

1” preload for 2” lift.

Its a 1:2 ratio.

 

[BeepsRaptor]

1” preload for 2” lift.

Its a 1:2 ratio.

Thanks!