I'll take a Raptor with a 5.0L please...

[NASSTY]

Yes, but it won't have cam phaser problems, a leaky oil pan, a leaky transmission pan...

Coyotes don't leak oil they drink it. My 1st gen (2013) with sleeved cylinders uses oil and the newer ones with the plasma cylinders use oil.

 

[CoronaRaptor]

I'll take a Raptor with a 5.0L please...
And I'll slap one of these... No need for an R... lol

There has to be more than 1 reason why Ford didn't offer this engine in the Raptor. I've driven the 5.0 l in the newer trucks, they sound good, but they don't get the gas mileage i thought they would get for a newer truck.

 

[RaptorAddict1]

Call me crazy but I have driven a Roush supercharged 5.0 in a 2019 King Ranch before and I wasn’t impressed. I would rather have a stock H.O. Ecoboost than that thing.

 

[GCATX]

You have clue what you’re talking about as usual, just trolling. Transmission pans have nothing to do with the engine, and 5.0 uses the same transmission regardless. 5.0 has also had issues with VCT solenoids and cam phaser noise, there are TSBs for those concerns. 5.0 has a composite oil pan, 2018+ 3.5 is aluminum.

Ruger ventured out of his ebola comfort zone. It's been a long couple years. There will be some sputters and misfires for a few weeks.

 

[AutoXRacer]

I'm not familiar with the Roush truck platform...
So I can't speak to its issues.

But my 750hp 3V Stage 3 Roush Mustang (not Roush stock) is mind-boggling!!! Power in all 6 gears... acceleration that's frightening, and on my daily commute to work, I average 19 mpg cruising 90 mph....

I was hoping for something similar in a Roush powered truck.

 

[Keshka]

OK, stand back!

Yes, adding F/I to an engine like the 5.0 offers a ton of power potential. The 5.0 upper end provides incredible airflow and high RPM power. The issue is that although it can pound out 700 at the crank, it can’t do so with anything close to OEM reliability. Hence why Ford developed the 5.2 Predator.

I’m sure you could get away with a supercharged 5.0 Mustang for a lot longer than an F-150, most of the failures I’ve seen have been in trucks.

OK, stand back! Here is the wuffo question of the day. I went over to the Roush site and grazed the cold air intake mods they offer. $1000 for the Raptor air sucker. Why do you think this addon would help? Point to ponder. This engine is turbo charged with a variable waste gate system. IE, Ford programming controls the amount or lack of boost. My Raptor at WFO shows a full 20lbs of boost with stock intake. It appears to me the turbos are not starving at all and this is at 3000 ft altitude. Changing the intake, as long as it is no more restrictive that stock, in theory, should not make any difference. So what's the deal? Roush packages this air intake with an ECM mod. So overriding what Ford programmed could potentially change the torque/hp curve of the Raptor and make it look like the intake actually mattered. Given that if you were at the north rim of the Grand canyon up around 9000 ft above sea lever you have 30% less air available I would bet Ford allowed for this and you could still get the full 20lbs of boost. My personal opinion is it is nothing more than eye candy.

edit: I am not sitting in said truck...I think that boost number is actually in in/Hg

 

[FordTechOne]

OK, stand back!

OK, stand back! Here is the wuffo question of the day. I went over to the Roush site and grazed the cold air intake mods they offer. $1000 for the Raptor air sucker. Why do you think this addon would help? Point to ponder. This engine is turbo charged with a variable waste gate system. IE, Ford programming controls the amount or lack of boost. My Raptor at WFO shows a full 20lbs of boost with stock intake. It appears to me the turbos are not starving at all and this is at 3000 ft altitude. Changing the intake, as long as it is no more restrictive that stock, in theory, should not make any difference. So what's the deal? Roush packages this air intake with an ECM mod. So overriding what Ford programmed could potentially change the torque/hp curve of the Raptor and make it look like the intake actually mattered. Given that if you were at the north rim of the Grand canyon up around 9000 ft above sea lever you have 30% less air available I would bet Ford allowed for this and you could still get the full 20lbs of boost. My personal opinion is it is nothing more than eye candy.

edit: I am not sitting in said truck...I think that boost number is actually in in/Hg

With the factory air intake and calibration, the engine should not be starved of air, even at elevation. And yes, you are correct that the PCM is able to adjust for elevation. Meaning it’s targeting a specific power/torque output, not a specific boost level, which is why you may see higher boost levels are higher elevations.

I am not sure what the factory air intake system is capable of in terms of maximum airflow before a vacuum develops, but Roush may have determined that with their tune, they need more airflow than the factory air intake can provide. Hence the tune/intake package. Some of the tuners on here may be able to offer more insight on that.

 

[smurfslayer]

Also, how do you safely operate the truck with a fancy intake in a high dust environment ... like pretty much any western US state right now? I’m sure it flows more CFM of air, as well as small particulates along with it.

 

[Jakenbake]

Also, how do you safely operate the truck with a fancy intake in a high dust environment ... like pretty much any western US state right now? I’m sure it flows more CFM of air, as well as small particulates along with it.

Depends on the intake I imagine. A volant with the Donaldson would be a great choice. Great filter. UMP also would be a good choice as well.

I have been looking at superchargers as of late, one of the items of concern for me is the filter. I have not been able to find a rating for a cotton gauze + pre-filter combo. Something like ISO 5011 testing.

I have noticed that some side x side performance companies make a cleanable dry filter element + pre filter for them. I have been looking there as well. They claim much better filtration when compared to a cotton gauze. Can’t find any details on it yet though.

Could relocate the battery and run dual UMP’s like HRD did. That was slick.

Companies like camburg run K&N’s + prefilter on their race trucks. They seem to like them pretty well. I would imagine race engines get tore down more frequently but I wouldn’t think you would want the scaring that comes along with dirt ingestion.

Kibbe tech seems to run them a lot on their builds as well.

Would be cool to move the filter to inside the cab. Might be able to make that work, oh well.

Back to more digging on the inter webs.

 

[Keshka]

hehe....here ya go.

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