IAG Air Oil Separator

[GooseTuned]

So I have some thoughts on the IAG system…

Why hasn’t Ford or other makes implemented a system like this that is maintenance free like it says? I thought the reason catch cans don’t come on vehicles is that they require a lot of maintenance that most don’t know how to do. It seems like the foamy crap that collects in the catch can is not something you want pushed back into your engine. My understanding is the catch can collects water condensation as well from the air that is forced into the block. Wouldn’t collecting and discarding this crap be the best option?

The tubes/intake also build up water vapors as well, those get sucked into the motor via the factory hose routing. When the oil is up to temp it burns that excess water off.

Since the AOS has coolant running through it, the oil vapor is already very warm. So chances of any water burning off quicker is higher.

The only reason you see the water in the catch can setup is because it sits there waiting for someone to empty it.

 

[SN8KE]

I put a catch can on my gen 2 for 6 months or so. Ended up swapping out to the IAG AOS via GooseTuned

 

[letsgetthisdone]

So I have some thoughts on the IAG system…

Why hasn’t Ford or other makes implemented a system like this that is maintenance free like it says? I thought the reason catch cans don’t come on vehicles is that they require a lot of maintenance that most don’t know how to do. It seems like the foamy crap that collects in the catch can is not something you want pushed back into your engine. My understanding is the catch can collects water condensation as well from the air that is forced into the block. Wouldn’t collecting and discarding this crap be the best option?

Cost, plain and simple. The way the engine comes from ford, on the factory tune, they know the majority of them will last to the goal mileage. And making the engine last to the goal mileage has a budget, so that the end price of the vehicle can be on target. Always comes down to project budget really.

 

[Hoop]

Installed mine yesterday. It looks intimidating out of the box but it is really pretty straight forward following the directions.

 

[GooseTuned]

Nice work!

 

[Chuckaroo91]

Installed mine yesterday. It looks intimidating out of the box but it is really pretty straight forward following the directions.

How hard / how long was the install?

 

[Hoop]

Took about an hour. I was taking my time.
1 tip: do not click on the connectors unless you are sure about the layout of the hose they were a Bi%*h to remove and adjust.
also the OEM orange PCV quick connectors on the driver side are near impossible to unseat. I ended up just separating the orange internal lock from the plastic housing. You do not need them if you are installing the Separator. Unless you keep all the OEM parts you remove, then you will have some serious cussing trying to get those off!

PDF of removing the quick disconnects. Didn't work for me but good info.

https://www.uprproducts.com/content/5030-249-ECSS.pdf

 

[donk_316]

$500 USD for a can and hoses just seems bonkers to me.

 

[MackFord]

Cost, plain and simple. The way the engine comes from ford, on the factory tune, they know the majority of them will last to the goal mileage. And making the engine last to the goal mileage has a budget, so that the end price of the vehicle can be on target. Always comes down to project budget really.

This is absolutely correct. I was a project manager for a top 3 electrical equipment manufacturer. The design, development, marketing, and sale of a new or improved product is a complicated process, but the budget is the first thing developed AFTER the field marketing studies (customer input into the IDEA of a product (focus groups) - way before a design is even proposed).

Budget is one of the most important things done right after a focus group study. Finding out what you can build to meet a customer demand, for a price that the customer will pay, is not easy. Their are always compromises.

 

[MackFord]

$500 USD for a can and hoses just seems bonkers to me.

Engineering costs money. Ideas cost money. That money needs to recovered or the business model is useless and the the product is never moved to production.

The parts are simple. The intellectual property is not. This product required a great deal of thought, time, money to develop, and don't forget the distribution network.

Looks easy until you do it.

For the record, I don't have one.