I do not "feel" the speed in my Raptor?

[isis]

An OEM Fox 3.0 is stiffer at different sections of travel than a strut from a half ton with 32" pizza cutters on 20s. At the top, arguably its a similar rate without progressive springs.

Why are you so afraid of triple digits in a 5500lb vehicle? If you're afraid of the energy transfer in a crash, 18 wheelers and tri-axles shouldn't be allowed on highways, yet I'm sure you've been passed by one doing 75.

Because the roads aren’t super wide, straight and empty in western PA. And the tires and brakes on this truck simply aren’t made for it. Why do you think it has the factory limit?

 

[BC119]

Because the roads aren’t super wide, straight and empty in western PA. And the tires and brakes on this truck simply aren’t made for it. Why do you think it has the factory limit?

Tires have speed ratings because of factors of safety and then some. So the answer is tires and tires alone. TRX is heavier and (just guessing here) probably not well balanced, but it has a higher limited speed. Dodge went and paid Goodyear or whoever is making their tires to slap a higher speed rating on a truck tire.

 

[Badgertits]

An OEM Fox 3.0 is stiffer at different sections of travel than a strut from a half ton with 32" pizza cutters on 20s. At the top, arguably its a similar rate without progressive springs.

Why are you so afraid of triple digits in a 5500lb vehicle? If you're afraid of the energy transfer in a crash, 18 wheelers and tri-axles shouldn't be allowed on highways, yet I'm sure you've been passed by one doing 75.

Its because the difference between negotiating a "panic" maneuver @ a speed of 75-80 mph vs 100-120 mph is HUGE - its even more dramatic when you're talking about a vehicle that weighs 5500-6000 lbs & is hovering 1.5' off the road riding on bouncy tires on a squishy suspension w/ all the weight over the front axle & none of it in the back!!!!

I have driven in HPDE & on road courses in sports cars & once you've experienced how quickly your butt can get puckered from snap back oversteer @ 80 in a 3200 lb lowered vette on sticky ass 305mm 100 treadware tires (basically driving fast & forcing yourselves to do "panic" type driving maneuvers on a closed course setting) - you can start using you're own imagination "hmmm I wonder how that would've worked out driving like that behind the wheel of my Raptor instead" - and, the mental picture isn't pretty

 

[SSWIM]

All this talk about speed. Interesting for sure. Lots of different views. Some one mentioned speed should be kept to the desert. I think it was Badger. Some mention speed rating on tires. I guess I haven't seen the speed rated tires for the TTs or Class 1s going 125-130 MPH. I guess the tires on these don't get enough abuse. HAHA. And I will drive the Raptor on a paved road at 100+mph with little reservation compared to running it 100 MPH in the desert. I guarantee it is much safer.

No offense to anyone, just an ongoing discussion that always gets dredged up when speed is the topic.

Sam

 

[Donmatteo]

There is zero excuse for exceeding any posted speed limit by +20 mph.

Boast your big **** stories all you want but the second you or yours is nailed by some tool doing excessive speed on a public road you would be the first one on this board posting about it and would want them thrown in jail.

 

[DFS]

There is zero excuse for exceeding any posted speed limit by +20 mph.

Boast your big **** stories all you want but the second you or yours is nailed by some tool doing excessive speed on a public road you would be the first one on this board posting about it and would want them thrown in jail.

Only time I'd exceed the speed limit by 20+ is passing on long straight/flat stretches of 2 lane high way. And then it's pass get over and slow down.

 

[Donovan]

Every vehicle forum ever has this conversation.

1. Do the crime, prepare for a citation or jail time.
2. Be responsible, when necessary.

 

[Jakenbake]

There is zero excuse for exceeding any posted speed limit by +20 mph.

Boast your big **** stories all you want but the second you or yours is nailed by some tool doing excessive speed on a public road you would be the first one on this board posting about it and would want them thrown in jail.

Is there any excuse to exceed a posted speed limit no how much over you are going. If the speed limit is 80 and you are doing 100 that is an increase of 25%. A posted limit of 20 and doing 25 is a similar increase of 25%.

 

[DFS]

Is there any excuse to exceed a posted speed limit no how much over you are going. If the speed limit is 80 and you are doing 100 that is an increase of 25%. A posted limit of 20 and doing 25 is a similar increase of 25%.

Is your reaction time decreasing at the same rate of change? No. Not even close having a real argument here.

 

[Jakenbake]

Is your reaction time decreasing at the same rate of change? No. Not even close having a real argument here.

Speed limits are often set based on stoping sight distance which accounts for reaction time or they are based on the 85th percentile speed for the road. So in my poorly stated example the limit may be 20 due to road conditions and tight turns, kids in the area, etc. a 25% increase is a 25% increase.


I was basically trying to state that I bet a lot of people would go 5 over in a 20 and not think anything of it but would he is irate to do what you claim about passing +20 on a long safe stretch.

I would “argue” that what you said that you have done could be safer than 5 over on a real slow speed in the right conditions.