Geiser springs mid perch

[Chewie]

How do you like it? I’m thinking of doing this exact setup.

Rides really nice, handles great, and definitely a good improvement over stock. But I do miss the availability of adjustment for when I hit the Rockies, so 3.0s are in the works.

 

[DMDRaptor]

How are you guys getting your geisers adjusted to mid perch? My autozone spring compressor (Macpherson type maybe) is all but maxed out just setting my set of geisers on low perch.

 

[TomDirt]

These guys.

 

[Jhollowell]

I'm not sure you'll be able to do it with one of those types of compressors. You really need a wall mounted one or i use a harbor freight 20 ton press with a custom tool i made.

You might be able to install them. use a floor jack under the LCA to compress the spring, and use your spring compressor to hold them. There was a video on the RPG site showing this method. not sure if its still there. The other issue is making sure your perch will move. Unless they're new shocks you can bet your perch is seized up and won't move easily.

 

[RennsportRaptor]

I'm not sure you'll be able to do it with one of those types of compressors. You really need a wall mounted one or i use a harbor freight 20 ton press with a custom tool i made.

You might be able to install them. use a floor jack under the LCA to compress the spring, and use your spring compressor to hold them. There was a video on the RPG site showing this method. not sure if its still there. The other issue is making sure your perch will move. Unless they're new shocks you can bet your perch is seized up and won't move easily.

I moved mine from low to mid perch on the truck with stock springs and only removed the wheels to do it. Left UCA and everything attached. It wasn’t impossible, but moving the perch itself is a pain. And my shocks only were a year old and had ~20k miles on them at most at that point. I used a floor jack under the control arm with autozone spring compressors.

I know full well I’ll need to have a shop install Geisers if/when I have them installed on mid perch. With the tension of the spring on mid I honestly wouldn’t feel comfortable putting them on top perch myself. I thought that spring compressor was gonna explode lol.

 

[DMDRaptor]

@Jhollowell Ahh 20 ton press, i knew it was some trick setup. I do have fresh rockauto shocks with 5k on them. Oem spring adjustments are easy peasy, but with the geiser autozone compressor combo it's like there were more coils per inch of spring making me run out of compressability before being able to tighten the top hat nut. If that makes sense? Maybe mid perch if I get a 20 ton press setup.

Does the truck behave better offroad with the nose up on mid with geisers? Also, are you on deavers out back? I know on my ranger it performed a lot better with preload on the front letting the rear do the work out back. Rear on that truck had deavers and a bedcage with bypasses, my raptor will have the same soon.

 

[Jhollowell]

@Jhollowell Ahh 20 ton press, i knew it was some trick setup. I do have fresh rockauto shocks with 5k on them. Oem spring adjustments are easy peasy, but with the geiser autozone compressor combo it's like there were more coils per inch of spring making me run out of compressability before being able to tighten the top hat nut. If that makes sense? Maybe mid perch if I get a 20 ton press setup.

Does the truck behave better offroad with the nose up on mid with geisers? Also, are you on deavers out back? I know on my ranger it performed a lot better with preload on the front letting the rear do the work out back. Rear on that truck had deavers and a bedcage with bypasses, my raptor will have the same soon.

My truck sits pretty level and i know i said earlier i was on Deaver +3 but it may be +2. its been so long i don't remember but it should be whatever is close to stock. I haven't done anything crazy with my suspension aside from springs and keeping my shocks fresh. I did geisers at a local self serve garage which had a floor mounted spring compressor and even that was super hard and quite scary when you feel how hard you have to turn that crank to get the spring to compress. The press is 1000x easier and faster. I'm happy to share the tool i made. You can send the dxf file to sendcutsend and have them cut out all the pieces and just weld them together.

Truck works a ton better offroad with the progressive springs and i don't really notice any drawback on road. I think after you get used to it, it feels normal. I did springs pretty quickly after i bought the truck so i don't even know what stock feels like.


This is my truck on deavers and geisers on mid perch. Single spare in the bed in a custom carrier and an Al HF jack in the bed so basically stock weight.

 

[Gumby]

I am going to go out on a limb and say you have +2s. if you didn't do shackles. Yours sets exactly like mine. I don't have Geisers. I have Eboch on low, and Deavers +2. I didn't want Post a pic so not to confuse others.
I might get burned at the stake but I don't like my +2. LOL... Here is why. I do tow my boat (small ish boat). The stock spring.. I feel did better than the +2. The +2 squats way more than the stock spring. But I got them from a member here for a great deal. I did Icon on mwaite09 truck..In configure #1 so kinda the same as +2 for Deaver. had him hook up to my boat. It was better than the stock and way better than +2.
All of this said... I am not saying anything bad about Deaver. Just what I do or want the truck to do FOR ME they are not the beat choose for my use. and will switch to Icon at some point.
I know this was a Little Bit of a derail. sorry