GASOLINE OCTANE

[K9 EXPERT]

First I need to clarify that I know almost nothing about vehicle mechanics. I also need to establish that I traded my 2019 Raptor for a 2023 Lariat for the added towing capacity. However I still own a 2021 37. Last night I was at a Christmas Party and met a person whom works at Ford Performance. I forgot his title, but he is fairly high up in the food chain. During a conversation he told me the Lariat has the exact same engine as the Raptor, but it is tuned differently. Then somehow we got on the conversation about octane. He said and I have since verified that both the Lariat and Raptor require 91 octane. I pointed out that the owners manual for the Lariat indicates it can take 87 octane. He told me can and should are two different things. He said “can” is a marketing strategy to imply if 91 is not available, 87 will work. He also said if I use 87 on a regular basis, it could melt some type of seals, (forgot the type of seal) which would not be covered under warranty. The way I recall the the conversation, he said all turbos require 91 and manufacturers are, or have moved to turbos to meet federal standards for mileage. He also said it will be almost impossible to find a new 8 cylinder in a couple of years. I believe (3 martinis down) he told me soon almost every new vehicle, minus a hybrid, will require 91 octane.

 

[Donmatteo]

91 or higher should be used on all turbo / high compression engines.

 

[smurfslayer]

I mean... There’s so much to unpack in here.

Not even going to bother. I did have lunch with a fellow 20+ year brewer, a true craftsman at West Coast IPA, and we collab’d in a recent brew that I think will be pretty damn good. I’ll be working on a Wee Heavy in the coming days and then get another round of porter in the kegs.

Octane...

almost as bad as another tire thread.

 

[Gsteve]

In a 231 ci motor making close to 20 lbs of boost and 2HP per ci , if youre not putting in the best fuel you can get.... wth

 

[HighwaySentinel]

Same engine, eh? Good to know. As a former LEO, your ability to recall important details is not super great. What seal will melt?

 

[smurfslayer]

In a 231 ci motor making close to 20 lbs of boost and 2HP per ci , if youre not putting in the best fuel you can get.... wth

yeah, true... but you do know there’s no super unleaded in / around baja. So I’ve heard.

 

[Donmatteo]

yeah, true... but you do know there’s no super unleaded in / around baja. So I’ve heard.

It's for sure available from most stations in the major cities but you need to find it.

Fuel is called Magna Sin and it 87-90 octane (regular). Magna Premium (Super) is like 94-95 but it's not available at all locations. Around the race area it's widely offered but sometimes they are out as most local's don't buy.

Always good idea to carry octane booster or fill some cans when you can.

 

[Hal993]

FWIW - when anyone starts talking about octane booster. - Ford says no MMT (which is often a preferred octane boost chem)

 

[Donmatteo]

FWIW - when anyone starts talking about octane booster. - Ford says no MMT (which is often a preferred octane boost chem)


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Not saying use it all the time. Just when the fuel is suspect or not available if needed.

Also, there are some boosters that dont use MMT like gold eagle.

Also, the only issue with MMT is fouled plugs after heavy and extended use.

 

[smurfslayer]

what unsubstantiated rumors will we discuss today?

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