So far so good, I did all 4. I had the opposite of the usual harshness, mine felt super 'floaty' when I left the shop. I have since zeroed the shocks and it feels like I actually have dampers as well as springs.. I'm loving the feel on the highway, I am north of dallas where we have a ton of uneven concrete roads that would about bottom it out before at any kind of speed - and it is much improved. I'm going to let them settle a bit and zero again. I'll be out at the ranch next week - will circle back after I beat on it a little. I've got some 4' rollers out there that are where I test my setups.
G3 Specific Geiser Springs?
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Yes. It definitely helped the ride and took 2 minutes if you already have Forscan set up.
hyrepower
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The geysers seem to be getting some good feedback here. I would love someone to chime in once they abruptly top out the suspension to see of they top out and clunk down like they did in the previous GEN 2. I also wish Geiser didnt lift so much, these trucks looks like they re lifted far too high, which would negatively affect handling as well.
Caveat: this is just my first impression in the dirt, not a review, and I’m no professional - just someone that has spent a lot of years in trucks/toys in the dirt.
Got the truck out on the main ranch road a bit just now. The front end definitely bangs to full droop when you come over a crest, but it did that before just not as hard. I wonder if anyone makes limit straps for these at the moment. I don’t think it’s necessarily a bad thing, but can be a little unnerving.
The good side is that I aired the truck a little over the rollers, not much, just a few inches - maybe a foot - as I get a feel for it, but the landings were smooth where I would have absolutely hit skid plates before. I feel like the suspension cycles faster which means more tire on the ground more often, which is good. The truck settles well on landings. I haven’t ripped around the slower, tighter, loose surface turns yet, and I probably won’t get to this trip but will in a few weeks when I am back. I want to wait until the springs fully settle before sharing much opinion there. That said, it felt great in the faster curves, as long as you’re aware of the “soft spot” on these springs and can stay in it with some body roll…
On the lift, one could certainly argue that they adversely affect handing in some situations, but any lift at all without changing other geometry is going to do that to some degree. There is always some trade-off. The springs are progressive meaning there is a “soft spot” when you load the suspension on a turn, but it’s just something to be aware of and your driving should adapt pretty quickly. I personally prefer stiffer springs and a digressive damper on things I’m running on the pavement as opposed to dirt at high speeds, but that’s just personal preference not a safety concern. On the dirt, I’m liking this setup so far. I would love to be able to dial the damper rates manually on these gen3s.
Got the truck out on the main ranch road a bit just now. The front end definitely bangs to full droop when you come over a crest, but it did that before just not as hard. I wonder if anyone makes limit straps for these at the moment. I don’t think it’s necessarily a bad thing, but can be a little unnerving.
The good side is that I aired the truck a little over the rollers, not much, just a few inches - maybe a foot - as I get a feel for it, but the landings were smooth where I would have absolutely hit skid plates before. I feel like the suspension cycles faster which means more tire on the ground more often, which is good. The truck settles well on landings. I haven’t ripped around the slower, tighter, loose surface turns yet, and I probably won’t get to this trip but will in a few weeks when I am back. I want to wait until the springs fully settle before sharing much opinion there. That said, it felt great in the faster curves, as long as you’re aware of the “soft spot” on these springs and can stay in it with some body roll…
On the lift, one could certainly argue that they adversely affect handing in some situations, but any lift at all without changing other geometry is going to do that to some degree. There is always some trade-off. The springs are progressive meaning there is a “soft spot” when you load the suspension on a turn, but it’s just something to be aware of and your driving should adapt pretty quickly. I personally prefer stiffer springs and a digressive damper on things I’m running on the pavement as opposed to dirt at high speeds, but that’s just personal preference not a safety concern. On the dirt, I’m liking this setup so far. I would love to be able to dial the damper rates manually on these gen3s.
hyrepower
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Good write up. You may want to look at SDI e click for a setup to manual dial the live valve shocks. I have heard good things about that setup for those that like to tinker. I am old fashioned and like compression and rebound knobs, lol.
Those look super neat! Doesn’t look like they have a set for the gen3 yet. I’ll keep an eye out.
Of note on the springs, measurements to the wheel wells were approx. 41” in the front and 43” in the rear so +2” of rake (just how i like it). I’m looking at a camper with 650lbs of tongue weight. With the weighsafe hitch showing 650lbs, the rear of truck squatted to 40”, so -1” of rake. I could get the trailer around ok like that, but I wouldn’t tow long distance looking up.
Things I haven’t tried yet, wdh or tire pressure. I run the tires pretty low generally. Next time, I’ll put the rears at cold max psi and see what happens, then maybe a wdh (but I don’t think I can make it work with the particular trailer tongue , we shall see).
Of note on the springs, measurements to the wheel wells were approx. 41” in the front and 43” in the rear so +2” of rake (just how i like it). I’m looking at a camper with 650lbs of tongue weight. With the weighsafe hitch showing 650lbs, the rear of truck squatted to 40”, so -1” of rake. I could get the trailer around ok like that, but I wouldn’t tow long distance looking up.
Things I haven’t tried yet, wdh or tire pressure. I run the tires pretty low generally. Next time, I’ll put the rears at cold max psi and see what happens, then maybe a wdh (but I don’t think I can make it work with the particular trailer tongue , we shall see).
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Viewsflores
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For everyone who has done the full set of geiser springs, how much did y’all pay for installation? I’m in Austin Texas I got a couple of quotes.
Hey guys, looking for advice and pics from anyone who's done the REARS ONLY and has basic stuff like tonneau cover and random gear. I only have the following on the truck and it looks like it's squatted to almost level already, only about 1" of rake.
Bakflip X4S
Builtrite rear panels
Builtrite molle pouches w/ shackles tow straps etc.
I'm wondering if the rears would be worth it, I don't plan on towing much but would like to be able to add a bit more gear and still have some payload/rake left for the random towing or heavy load. Just don't want to compromise ride or have it look super jacked up in the back.
Bakflip X4S
Builtrite rear panels
Builtrite molle pouches w/ shackles tow straps etc.
I'm wondering if the rears would be worth it, I don't plan on towing much but would like to be able to add a bit more gear and still have some payload/rake left for the random towing or heavy load. Just don't want to compromise ride or have it look super jacked up in the back.
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